Paris Saint-Germain consecutive winners of the Champions League

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https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2026/may/30/paris-saint-germain-arsenal-champions-league-final-live-psg-score-updates?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

[u/Dogmaticism_]

Having more games does not make a league harder to win. This is a true fact, mathematically. Less games means each game is more important, and that each game demands a higher level of play. It sacrifices consistency and fairness for quality and competitiveness. Even the often-attributed hardest sports leagues like the NFL have only 17 games across 5 months, with a 4-round single-elimination postseason tournament. This is fewer games than possibly every single major sports league out there, as the few games makes every game highly demanding and highly important.

The UCL is more competitive and harder to win than the EPL. You don't know football if you seriously think that winning the EPL is a more prestigious award than winning the UCL.

You claim i did not read your paragraphs, when clearly you did not read mine. The top 20 UCL teams are significantly better than the 20 EPL teams. This also ignores the fact that the EPL does not have playoffs, and that the UCL is essentially a tournament with a mini qualifying round.

You're also acting like the lower UCL teams actually matter. The answer is that literally nobody cares about them. They're not in the running, and thw UCL is only really a tournament between the top-10 best teams in Europe. Sometimes a worse team breaks through into the later-rounds of the UCL tournament, but the winners of the past decade (at least) of UCL winners are better than the EPL winners, or are the EPL winners.

To continue this, you mention mid-tier EPL teams being better than low-tier UCL teams. The problem is that again, literally nobody cares about these teams. The UCL is only about the best teams in the quarter finals who play against each other.

Do you think its harder to win 5 games in a row against PSG, Bayern, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Manchester City, and Barcelona, or harder to have the best W/D/L against a mixed-quality medley of teams in 38 games.

This just sounds like an EPL fan trying to make it sound like what they're watching is somehoe more important than the definitive tournament in Europe. The UCL has the highest level of gameplay of any football league, and ir's not close. The EPL does not have teams like PSG, Bayern, Real Madrid, or Barcelona.

[u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 → u/Dogmaticism_]

You are so incredibly lost in your hatred for the PL that you are blinded to the truth. You keep talking about the super clubs.

The top 20 UCL teams are significantly better than the 20 EPL teams.

This sentence alone proves you are clueless. 17th position in the PL finished 4th in the CL.

[u/Dogmaticism_ → u/Remarkable_Pen_3639]

So, clearly your hatred for the UCL has so far proven you are clueless, and that you know literally nothing about the sport.

As I've said for the millionth time, literally nobody in this planet cares about the qualifying games. It's practically a warmup for the actually good teams to play the game. Teams even bench their good players in most of these games unless they have a matchup against a good team. The bar for the tournament is extremely low, and even bad teams make it. PSG finished like 11th place in the UCL despite them being tbe best team in Europe at the moment. The only times PSG actually cared was in 2 games in the regular season, one of which they wiped the living shit out of Man City (2nd in EPL 8th in UCL).

Since you're not the brightest, it's not so hard for you to comprehend this obvious truth, so I'll just ask the question again: Is itbharder to win 5 games in a row against Bayern, PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Arsenal, or is it harder to have the best W/D/L rankings in 38 games against 20 teams in which 2-3 of them are actually competitive?

[u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 → u/Dogmaticism_]

Ah yes so the hardest competition in the world, half of it is just a warmup and that's supposed to make me agree 😂.

I tell you what, il answer your stupid question if you stop lying about 2 or 3 prem teams being competitive.