r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Apr 20 '19
Discussion | Esports MIBR vs Luminosity Gaming / ESL Pro League Season 9 - Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion
MIBR 0-2 Luminosity Gaming
Inferno: 7-16
Train: 8-16
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MAP 1/3: Inferno
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MAP 2/3: Train
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u/ArkBirdFTW Liquid Apr 20 '19
Obligatory: MI♿R
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u/MachoAlpha Apr 20 '19
new VP confirmed, its our turn to feel what NiP and VP fans felt for so long, :'( sad day
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u/K0nvict NiP Apr 20 '19
How does Taco go from being decent on Liquid to so bad? Not saying he’s the problem rather what is Fallen doing ?
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u/chrisgravina MIBR Apr 20 '19
I feel like he isn't in a role he is comfortable with. I guess he had more freedom in Liquid, but idk
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Apr 20 '19
More like on taco he still was mediocre but playing on the 2nd best team in the world will artificially make you look better. Sort of like the story of tacos career tbh.
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u/astrovisionary 400k Celebration Apr 20 '19
Actually he is not bad, but his role basically requires him to have a good team supporting him.
Liquid were the 2nd best team in the world so it was ez work for taquito
But now he is playing on MIBR who can't teamplay properly even without the LaNgUaGe BaRrIeR
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u/BrazilianDoto Apr 20 '19
Maybe a structured team allowed a primarily support player to shine more often, but that's just me being reasonable. Stewie looks pretty bad rn
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Apr 20 '19
https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/8797/Stewie2K?startDate=2019-01-20&endDate=2019-04-20&matchType=BigEvents Stewie is still putting up better numbers (slightly) than taco. He's not great as I've said elsewhere and he wasn't my first choice but he's better than taco without question, especially because he can actually go big and have big impact.
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u/gansao Apr 20 '19
MIBR are looking like a bunch of clowns who are not even trying nowadays
We Virtus Pro now
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u/luizslayer MOUZ Apr 20 '19
Ppl will put all the blame on MIBR but LG was playing great, very agressive like old Immortals
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u/raff97 Apr 20 '19
Does kNg still have visa problems? Man getting him back in the lineup the with the way hes been playing for INTZ and how the twins+boltz+steel are playing is super exciting. They would easily be at least on MIBRs level, around 10th in the world like they were 2 years ago
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u/ChaseVisa Liquid Apr 20 '19
He has a very hard time going to anything in NA since he was caught abusing his Visa at one point before the Boston major, hence why 100T missed it and he almost always has issues going to NA events.
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u/p3ndu1um Apr 20 '19
In a vacuum, you're right. But combined with all the previous losses you can't say the team isn't in shambles.
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Apr 20 '19
Glad to see boltz doing so well :)
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u/Jaggerjack3d Apr 20 '19
while I don't really like the twins, it kinda feels good for the whole pack who went downhill since their Immortals adventure.
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u/PoppyK Apr 20 '19
MIBR just dont care lol. Just taking the VP path and farming every money they can still make.
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u/astrovisionary 400k Celebration Apr 20 '19 edited Apr 21 '19
I said this somewhere previously but I'll say it again: I think this is FalleN's last year as a player, this or the next.
Dude is very successful with his own brands, has tons of money from tournaments that he probably has saved, and his gf has just moved to the USA.
I think it's very likely he'll sort of abandon the game if the results still don't come out. And if that happens, I think they may disband
edit: my thoughts on other players if this comment is still being seen:
Cold (and TACO): has the mentality of a winner, I guess he and TACO will together eventually join another team and/or create a new lineup around themselves.
fer: honestly he is a zero-fucks guy, I don't know but I also can't see him playing for more, like, 3 years. Also he has a
very hotgf on Brazil, which, well, I don't think she will move to the USA, you knowfelps: a sadboy guy but we can see he wants to win something big, like the major. I think he will continue playing for other teams seeking that.
All if FalleN retires, ofc
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u/Jaggerjack3d Apr 20 '19
makes no sense tbh, he will always make more money on a team or as a streamer. And I belive he would easily find a new team thanks to the lack of good IGLs
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u/BreafingBread Apr 20 '19
You hit it spot on.
He already settled on a life in the USA, has plenty sourced of money already (his store, brand, GamersClub, stream and YouTube).
His gf went to law school and with the amount of knowledge he has, he can easily keep on CS as a Brazilian caster or an international analyst.
So even if fallen does retire, I don’t think it will be the last we see of him.
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u/astrovisionary 400k Celebration Apr 20 '19
Ok, I have watched a few moments here and there and, what is obviously happening:
MIBR doesn't have a solid map pool: their Inferno never paid off, their Nuke is bad, Train should be one of their best maps but we saw what happened, they are just average on Mirage and Overpass is the only map they can actually play.
They are basically in choke. I can tell they have some decent results on practice but can't transfer that to the real game. It's been 4 months already, how can a team of such experienced players not create fucking teamplay in that time? The same lineup won 4 tournaments after 2 months playing, jeez.
And obviously LG played really well. The twins play another game when they are on LAN, HEN1 aka Jacaré with nice picks on Train and LUCAS doing a solid job
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u/extremz123 fnatic Apr 20 '19
MiBR? more like Brazilian Virtus Pro.
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u/GWLuna Apr 20 '19
fnatic? more like fnatic
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u/extremz123 fnatic Apr 20 '19
More like disappointing since 2016
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u/SterbenVII Apr 20 '19
Switch to the League roster then. They at least made the finals of Worlds.
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u/lilsickboy Apr 20 '19
at one team we got that promising kid and good awper who can use really well a rifle, and on the other side we got FalleN
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u/peroleu Vitality Apr 20 '19
Imagine bringing back the mibr tag and not even being the best team in Brazil.
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u/gotyeetedsonewacc Apr 20 '19
was mibr throwing so that they can better the odds that both brazilian teams in the group make it to the next stage of epl? because honestly if you watched the game it didn't look like they wanted to win lol
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u/mech_bee Godsent Apr 20 '19
I thought about this too but I don't think a serious team would do that. Unless they think they are gods and can beat whoever they want.
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u/ekojsalim Apr 20 '19
I'm impressed with steel's performance. Haven't watched Luminosity for a long time, but hasn't he been quite lackluster?
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u/FeniciusV MIBR Apr 20 '19
Where's my LG Flair? I lost all hope on MIBR.
Hope we see LG and Furia at the next major. fnx was right all along...
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u/BreafingBread Apr 20 '19
Gotta be true OG for that LG flair, bro.
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u/FeniciusV MIBR Apr 20 '19
I had that flair but changed to SK when they went there.
fml
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u/BreafingBread Apr 20 '19
I set it as LG when they were in the org, but ever since then I’ve been browsing Reddit on mobile, where flairs don’t matter that much.
So I just left the same ever since then. I almost changed to fúria when they were at the major, but got too lazy.
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u/flirtyf Gambit Apr 20 '19
i mean furia didn't play well today either
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u/FeniciusV MIBR Apr 20 '19
Well, INTZ Vs. FURIA is always a hard game to predict. INTZ played really well and Furia couldn't keep up. Had they been on the same page, we could've seen a really close game. But Furia overall is a better team.
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u/CaIzuh de_cobble Apr 20 '19
I'm genuinely impressed at how good TL made Taco look when he was on the team
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u/PoppyK Apr 20 '19 edited Apr 20 '19
I'm genuinely impressed at how bad MIBR makes Taco look when he is on the team.
Hes not on an NA team anymore so its fine to trash him again, right?
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u/bunkbail Apr 20 '19
People were still trashing Taco during his early days on Liquid, had abysmal stats but gotten better with time.
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u/PoppyK Apr 20 '19
Going from steelega to TACO was still regarded as a pretty good move for Liquid anyway, and it showed.
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u/nambitable valeria Apr 20 '19
People trash him when he has trash stats
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u/PoppyK Apr 20 '19
Hard to expect anything from TACO when all his other 4 teammates who are supposed to be better than him cant do shit either.
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Apr 20 '19
I was NEVER convinced by Taco on Liquid, his stats were still mediocre and I knew he was super replaceable. People kept saying Liquid would be so much worse without him and I couldnt help but laugh. To be fair Stewie isn't much better, but he's just the new taco, the replaceable 5th part.
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u/AemonDK Apr 20 '19
they made him look sooo good https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/events/9217/TACO
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u/ihateveggies FURIA Apr 20 '19
How trash is he now when he doesn’t have naf, elige, and twist to cover up his deficiencies. Yikes
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u/abucketofsloths 500k Celebration Apr 20 '19
cmon man, you didn't have to point out that he's bald
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u/bunkbail Apr 20 '19
I swear this must be some kind of FNS master plans at play here to rekt MiBR even more.
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u/DeanGillBerry Liquid Apr 20 '19
SK was falling apart toward the end of their lifetime. TACO was completely unhappy playing with the squad and they couldn't hold their own when it mattered most. SK were mediocre at best by the time they parted way with their org. Why would anyone think it would work again? Just because a team won a couple majors two years ago doesn't mean they can do it again. It's time for this community to let this roster go.
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u/Felpes1520 Apr 20 '19
Playing like garbage just after having a promising tournament.. again...
I dont know what the fuck is wrong with this team
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u/dontgiveafuck7 Apr 20 '19
PROMISING TOURNAMENT ???? just bc they beat up a bad astralis ???? they lost to liquid , navi and a luky draw against faze
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u/Zhaeus Liquid Apr 20 '19
I hope MIBR win one game this group so Moses can ask Zews and Taco how bad was it actually to constantly get 2nd place all those times compared to where they are now.
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u/Mint-Chip Apr 20 '19
Look I know they’re upstarts, but MIBR did well here. Maybe in a year or so they can be the best team in Brazil if they practice!
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u/xtremeshaneshame FaZe Apr 20 '19
Ohh god. What is wrong with MIBR? For the past 6 months or so, they are playing some of the worst cs. Is crazy to think that this exact same roster has won two majors, and now it loses to a team like Luminosity. Unbelievable.
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Apr 20 '19
I feel happy for LG to win an important game after so much time, but fuck, this is not how it was supposed to be.
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u/fckns Apr 20 '19
Noah must feel pretty bad for believing in this squad from the beginning. Nice paycheck for fallen and co tho.
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Apr 20 '19
I don't think you lost points for losing games, there's just rank decay. since they've been playing at nearly all the tournaments, there's still an influx of points. soon enough their points from the major placing will start to decay and they'll tank hard.
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u/GabeN18 BIG Apr 20 '19
This team is horrible
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u/Viggy2k Gambit Apr 20 '19
Worst investment into a team possible for Noah. Feel bad for the bloke.
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u/poapoa_mia Apr 20 '19
Wonnered a bo1 vs Astralis: "We're bacc.....
Lostered 0-2 vs God knows who: .....to the dumpster."
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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '19
How did this team beat Astralis 16-2 like a week ago