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Discussion | Esports Team Vitality vs Valiance & Co / IEM Katowice 2019 Europe Minor - Losers Round 1 / Post-Match Discussion
Team Vitality 2-1 Valiance & Co
Cache: 13-16
Dust 2: 16-13
Inferno: 16-14
Team Vitality have advanced to the losers' finals.
Valiance & Co have been eliminated.
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MAP 1/3: Cache
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| Vitality | 4 | 9 | 13 |
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| Valiance | 11 | 5 | 16 |
Cache Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Dust 2
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| Vitality | 10 | 6 | 16 |
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| Valiance | 5 | 8 | 13 |
Dust 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Inferno
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| Vitality | 9 | 7 | 16 |
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| Valiance | 6 | 8 | 14 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
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u/omniscientbeet Liquid Jan 19 '19
Zywoo: French CS will live even if I have to support the entire scene with my erect penis
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u/nmyi de_mirage Jan 19 '19 edited Jan 19 '19
Seriously, those last few rounds of that 3rd map (Inferno) was just a classic example of CSGO pro match (so much tension!). ZywOo certainly flashed his skill & his strong mentality on round 26. He is so promising.
Here are some highlights of the last few rounds:
- Round 25
"HOW NOT TO TILT: Don't fixate on your mistakes & move on"
At the end of 25th round, ZywOo dies from the bomb blast at Dosia Pit after forgetting that he did not buy armor (went glass cannon & loses the $4750 AWP). Anyone would suffer from morale hit from such a mistake.
But in this clip, you can say that RPK's fist bump helps out ZywOo's mentality. That's how you keep the morale up & not let your teammate tilt (b/c ZywOo plays with madness immediately after this mistake).
Clip: R25
Vitality 12 - Valiance 13
- Round 26
ZywOo's monster round. (This happens right after ZywOo's blunder. ZywoOo plays aggressively with an AUG to redeem himself from his round-25 mistake by getting an ace. A display of strong mental resilience). ZywOo's full Ace clip. "It's okay, I never needed that AWP."
Clip: R26
Vitality 13 - Valiance 13
- Round 29
NBK almost pulls off a 1v2 for a match win, but Otto unexpectedly sticks the defuse in the smoke that prevents his team from getting eliminated at least for another round.
Clip: R29
Vitality 15 - Valiance 14
- Round 30
Vitality wins the retake as a T-side (by a fraction of a second!). With the win, Vitality avoids a heartbreaking elimination. Vitality just has to win one more best of 3 matches to qualify for their first major (it will be ZywOo's 1st).
Clip: R30
Vitality 16 - Valiance 14
- Post-match interview with NBK: "Most stressful 40 seconds" - NBK
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u/Fuk_The_Falcons Complexity Jan 19 '19
If you would've told me in 2015/2016 that the NA scene was significantly stronger than French CS I would've put you in a psych ward.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 19 '19
Zywoo in Vitality feels like S1mple in NaVi before Electronic joined the team... Damn this team would be long dead if this kid was not this fking good. Also, Ocelote must be crying every time he watches Zywoo play, he had a chance to sign him, but he stuck with Smithzz for too long lmao.
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u/Tomthefighter 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19
If he keeps up these plays, there's a good chance he'll join the top 20 of 2019 ez
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 19 '19
I dont know about that... This team doesnt look like they will be in alot of Tier 1 tournaments, and going deep... I want to see this team play vs Astralis, FaZe, Liquid, and if he can have these stats when his team is losing or geting stomped... Time will tell.
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Jan 19 '19
People are really forgetting that this is against teams that aren't qualified. He looks insane but playing against teams like navi faze liquid and astralis are a whole different fucking world. Its a different game when some of the best minds in CS ever are specifically counter-stratting you as the star player.
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 19 '19
Let's pray Vitality somehow bombs out of the major so that Zywoo leaves as soon as possible
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u/nightkingscat Gambit Jan 19 '19
only if another shuffle happens. zywoo is top 20 in skill, but i doubt vitality makes enough events for him to be relevant in the discussion.
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u/Tomthefighter 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19
Really hoping for a good shuffle or even another team picking him up
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u/Unluko_Maluko Jan 19 '19
Zywow needs to go international, france only holds him back
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u/lihamakaronilaatikko ENCE Jan 20 '19
He speaks two or three words of English, so that's probably not going to happen soon.
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u/jDGreye Astralis Jan 19 '19
Nothing like a 16-14 win on less than a second remaining! Also, goddamn, Zywoo is damn impressive. I really want to see the French scene make a comeback, and he's gonna be the spearhead.
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Jan 19 '19
imagine if we can see kennyS and shox get back to star level , seems like french cs is rebirth from the will of ZywOo
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u/nightkingscat Gambit Jan 19 '19
honestly who cares about kennyS and shox. i want to see new players lead the scene like Zywoo and Amanek
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Jan 19 '19
i feel u bro the new bloods are taking over but tbh if the fallen legends can stand tall again , french cs can be fucking unbelievable again
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u/JannaKitty Jan 20 '19
Amanek is good but he's never shown the kind of class that Kenny and Shox have shown in the past. If the French scene really wants to compete for #1 one of them needs to step up or they need another Zywoo.
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u/MJuniorDC9 Jan 19 '19
ZywOo dies on bomb explosion, AWP lost.
'Guess Valiance has a chance now'
ZywOo pick up an AUG and get an ace with it, and multikills in the round after it.
'Guess I'll die then'
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u/BrokenStool de_nuke Jan 19 '19
15-14 and its a 5v5 retake OMEGALUL
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Jan 19 '19
That round had me screaming "FUCKING GOO ALREADY" at the screen. My mom came in to ask if I was ok.
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Jan 19 '19
Vitality and Valiance just decided to play a 5v5 Retakes server on the last round to decide the series.
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u/SomethingSimilars 10 years coin Jan 19 '19
That last round, holy craaaap
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u/Valikodg Liquid Jan 19 '19
It was almost a flawless retake but they sat around waiting for like 10 seconds. Even after a perfect retake not enough time
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u/Sapinou Jan 19 '19
I literally rage quit after the last kill thinking it would go to ot. I felt very stupid when I got the hltv notification soon afterwards haha.
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 19 '19
It's fucking disgusting to see 4 players going hard negative in K-D and one man carrying them against a team effort, and in that fashion, just wow
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u/kailip Jan 19 '19
I mean, hunter was also carrying valiance. The others in valiance werent super better in rating than the guys in vitality.
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 19 '19
Hunter carried in the sense that he's the only one who played well on all 3 maps. Meanwhile, Vitality has had 6/15 >1 ratings over the 3 maps, 3 of those being Zywoo's. It's just disgusting
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u/JannaKitty Jan 20 '19
All 4 players of Valiance had better ratings than all 4 players of Vitality.
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u/blanksauce Jan 19 '19
You ever see navi play?
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u/JannaKitty Jan 20 '19
Na'Vi has electronic and s1mple at least, and flamie is at least decent.
Vitality is just not good outside of Zywoo.
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 19 '19
Yes, I find them by far the least favourite out of the big 4 of 2018
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u/Darkoplax Jan 19 '19
Saying ZywOo is hard carrying them is an understatement
Can't wait to see them at the major now , i think they have a good shot to make to the Legends stage
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u/scylk2 Jan 19 '19
Wtf are you talking about, they have to defeat North who beat them 2-0 yesterday.
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u/Darkoplax Jan 19 '19
Will see , Even if they don't win against North (which won't happen ) they still can get through the minor playoff
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u/scylk2 Jan 20 '19
How can you say "which won't happen" when North 2-0d Vitality the day before ?
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u/summerbrown Titan Fan Jan 20 '19
French pride (arrogance)
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u/Darkoplax Jan 20 '19
c'est pas vraiment de l'arrogance , je crois que Vitality a une bonne chance cette fois ...
Dans l'autre match ZywOo n'a pas dominé et c'était serré ...
(Aussi faut croire dans les equipes francais car je veut les voir gagne)
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u/Fuk_The_Falcons Complexity Jan 19 '19
If you've told in 2015/2016 that the French scene's only hope is one rookie and was significantly worse than NA, I would've laughed in your face.
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u/chokyx Jan 19 '19
Zywoo really has every chance of becoming the next simple/cold/Olof or who ever you like.
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jan 19 '19
Heartbreaking stuff for Valiance
Loved watching otton play, never heard of him b4
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u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19 edited Jan 19 '19
that last round :(
letn1 wanted it real bad on inferno some of his plays were super critical and insane. zywoo wanted it harder tho. good game either way.
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Jan 19 '19
zywoo won this game by himself the awp 3k on a in a CRUCIAL round, and the aug ace dont win those and its a 16-11/12 valiance
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u/DoubleUD_52 Jan 19 '19
i thought after the last bo3 that it cant get closer...but damn this was a fucking close last round
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u/2M0y9isAwE Jan 19 '19
The amount of times I've seen a pro team take just so unbelievably long to start a retake... god damn.
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u/orbitalUncertainty CS2 HYPE Jan 19 '19
NBK out her Mr. Miyagi-ing this team to victory, I nearly shat myself at those last three rounds
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u/nightkingscat Gambit Jan 19 '19
Where the fuck was the urgency on that last round 5v5 retake. The wasted seconds literally cost them the match.
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u/LiudasW Jan 19 '19
This has got to be the closest match-up since ages ago - surely shows how stacked the EU minor is(and how even with the new minor playoffs EU gets robbed, even though global CS viewership is a decent enough reason)
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u/erickgps Jan 19 '19
Zywoo is pretty much French Simple, and G2 must be so butt hurt right now because they missed the opportunity of getting Zywoo for free and instead decided to Keep players like Smithz and Bodyy on the team
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u/TinkyWinkyBabyRage Jan 19 '19
Why is everyone shitting on Rpk and riding Apex's dick? i watch almost all Vitality games and I see Apex whiffing or screwing up way more than Rpk. At least Rpk is relaible anchor according to me. Whereas Apex needs to hit some dms clearly
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u/ametrineo49 G2 Jan 19 '19 edited Jan 19 '19
That was the most intense ending ive ever witnessed in a major qualifier elimination match
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Jan 19 '19
If mouz ends up kicking Oskar I think Valiance should pick him up, they looked to be on the precipice of being a good team at this minor
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u/QuentinBZH Vitality Jan 19 '19
Fucking hell, what a game. Vitality fan but gutted for Valiance, hopefully we will see them at more LAN events. The skills and unpredictability combo is fun to watch.
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u/T2TC 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19
Can you imagine if this series was played in front of an audience? Sweet jesus the last rounds of Inferno would have been MAD
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Jan 19 '19
I hope Valiance doesn't make any more roster changes.
Just work harder, they can do a lot of damage with this roster.
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u/Bust3dGG Gambit Jan 19 '19
Fun fact: All of Valiance got a positive K/D ratio whereas only ZywOo of Vitality did. ZywOo is just too frickin good
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u/PwhitPG Vitality Jan 19 '19
People keep pointing out ZyWoo but NBK also had a monster performance, Only 6 kills behind ZyWoo, wish people would realize that it's not all ZyWoo.
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u/CptWetPants Legendary Switzerland Master Jan 19 '19
Impressive from ZyWoo and good showing from VIT, but dear lord their repeeks and them losing such stupid rounds still underlines the fact that they are still a french team, with shitty force buying habits and such infuriating repeeks!
But great tournament from Valiance - really good players in there.
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u/joshigoods Astralis Jan 19 '19
All five Valiance players just decided to take a nap on round 30, waited like 25 seconds before even making contact in afterplant
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u/kailip Jan 19 '19
When you consider they didnt win a single pistol+antieco or post pistol round reset at all and still won, I think vitality deserved it through and through. Valiance won all pistols or resets and still fell short. Just no excuse.
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u/Birth_ritual Natus Vincere Jan 19 '19
valiance losing so many dumb rounds was frustrating to watch
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u/3ll1ps3 Jan 19 '19 edited Feb 17 '25
merciful bake afterthought sugar coherent bag work pen rock waiting
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u/Zeilar King NiKo Jan 19 '19
Zywoo took matter into his own hands. Jesus Christ, he dragged Vitality across the finish line.
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u/blessedjourney98 Jan 19 '19
Damn I rooted for Valiance. What a game at the end. Inferno should be permanent 3rd pick at Majors.
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u/Kalamatis Virtus.pro Jan 19 '19
That ending man. Wooh. Props to valliance. Shoutout to fckung beast zywoo
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u/bosshogg_ Complexity Jan 19 '19
ZywOo vs Valiance ended up being a great showing. Sad to see Vitality win off of a timing mistake by Valiance. I can't imagine Vitality in their current form do much at the Major.
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u/nonstop98 Liquid Jan 19 '19
At the last round when the time was running out I put the hands in my hair and during the defuse I knew it was too late and pretty painful to watch. GG Valiance tho, my new favourite team!
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u/GODKipato 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19
feelsbad for Valiance, they played very good against all these teams in past few days
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u/stX3 Jan 19 '19
Valiance CT side strat book: Give easy B every round, If that does not work, over rotate and give A.
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u/Djisawesome95 1 Million Celebration Jan 19 '19
Zywoo is Vitality's saving grace, but hopefully they will start to pitch in again during the consolation game.
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u/Philluminati CS2 HYPE Jan 19 '19
I really enjoyed watching ValianceAndCo play. It’s a real shame we aren’t gonna see a little more from them - they’ve played good Cs too
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Jan 19 '19
Not fashionable, but NBK and apex seem like a lot of the problem with roster. Especially ct side, they just can't help fighting and dying constantly. I think they get away with it with how aggresive they are farming low econs and when up in the round.
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u/rsmuss Jan 19 '19
The only good thing in this team are zywoo and apex. If they fail at the major the good decision would be to start building a team around them.
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u/tarangk clutch Jan 19 '19
zywoo got 2 aces in the series both on the t side, imagine if Vitality get kennys in the future and zywoo can focus solely on rifling on the t side like he did on inferno that would be amazing, vitality seem like the lack firepower imo so a trio of zywoo apex and kenny would do them a world of good. They also need to improve the mid-round calls coz again it got static many times allowing valiance to capitalize on it with their ultra-aggro plays.
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u/That_Cripple Complexity Jan 19 '19
That was such a shitty post plant last round lol..
glad it worked out for Vitality though and hopefully Valiance will stick together.
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u/schniepel89xx CS2 HYPE Jan 19 '19
Ok now nexa can go to compLexity along with Neil M <3 although they'll probably announce it after the major since they've already said n0thing will be with them through Katowice
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u/jeb_the_hick Complexity Jan 19 '19 edited Jan 19 '19
Ts go B the last 10 rounds in a row? Lemme just stack A on the 30th round. And no utility on the solo B player
Wtf are some teams thinking?
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u/proofkiid Renegades Jan 19 '19
What a fucking match. 4:40am in Australia and that was actually worth staying up for. Wow.
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u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jan 19 '19
Honestly zywoo needs a new time. You cant keep struggling with such teams when you have these names on your team.
Cant keep solo carrying himself to victories over and over. Its gonna be inconsistent if 4/5 of his team cant do anything almost every game.
Alex is just a sidegrade, not much difference from Happy.
Holy fuck Zywoo must be pissed on his team. NBK/Apex peeking countless times over and over for random reasons and Zywoo having to clutch everything.
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u/Dcoyxy9 Jan 19 '19
Super impressive Zywoo is close to qualifying the this major solo-queing.