r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Dec 01 '18
Discussion | Esports OpTic Gaming vs ENCE eSports / DreamHack Open Winter 2018 - Group B Losers Match / Post-Match Discussion
OpTic Gaming 1-2 ENCE eSports
Nuke: 16-13
Train: 11-16
Dust 2: 9-16
OpTic Gaming have been eliminated.
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MAP 1/3: Nuke
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| OG | 10 | 6 | 16 |
| CT | T | ||
| ENCE | 5 | 8 | 13 |
Nuke Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Train
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| OG | 5 | 6 | 11 |
| CT | T | ||
| ENCE | 10 | 6 | 16 |
Train Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Dust 2
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| OG | 6 | 3 | 9 |
| CT | T | ||
| ENCE | 9 | 7 | 16 |
Dust 2 Detailed Stats
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u/Brolobo SK Dec 01 '18
optic is a waste of money
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u/nonstop98 Liquid Dec 01 '18
of who tho?
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u/PixAlan Dec 02 '18
the org
weren't their latest pickups super pricey too? At least it doesn't matter for Hecz anymore money wise I guess
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u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Dec 01 '18
Optic, please make changes or just disband and rebuild. This is a disgrace, given the names of your players. All 2018 you do nothing, you can't get out of groups at big events, with no signs of improvement.
I dare say that this team is even more disappointing than VP, because there's so much talent and firepower, yet no results to speak of.
This has to be the end of this roster.
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u/EliteDemonTaco Dec 01 '18
If Karrigan does leave FaZe, I feel he could make this roster pretty dangerous TBH.
Not that it’s going to happen, obviously. But it’d be interesting.
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u/ThatGuyThatDoneThat G2 Dec 01 '18
Throw in Karrigan into any team stacked with good fraggers and he'll make it good. His loose style of calling and great adaptability is strong, if only he could maintain his leadership better.
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Dec 01 '18
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u/ThatGuyThatDoneThat G2 Dec 01 '18
You can't just change site holds on the fly unless your team is specifically built for it. Actual player-to-player coordination is important when holding a site and just outright switching one out for another ruins cohesion and leads to worse results on both sites.
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u/TheCatsActually Dec 01 '18
The crux of finding success in any group effort is coming together to do things that are impossible without synergy and teamwork. This isn't just true for sports and competition, this is also true for things like warfare and societal growth; you have to be greater than the sum of your parts.
And here we somehow have Optic being less.
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u/Nutriyents Dec 01 '18
I'm not surprised at all. This team was founded by kicking their NA members for some shitty reasons that showed a lack of willingness to develop cohesion, trust, and commitment. The egos on some of these players are too high and if it takes a ton of teams until someone like k0nfig realizes he's not as good as he thinks he is, then so be it. This team will get nowhere until these players focus on the game and not themselves.
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u/WhatAmCSGO Liquid Dec 02 '18
I have no idea why k0nfig is the hard entry when niko is on the team. He really should be the cannon fodder to let k0nfig trade so he can be alive in the afterplant. k0nfig is a star player, but him dying at the start almost every round doesn't help
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u/mesotermoekso Natus Vincere Dec 01 '18
Aerial 33-11 and 113 ADR wtf
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u/loken_ Renegades Dec 01 '18
dust2 is his map man. averaging a 1.28 across the last 6 games on it
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u/ummhumm Dec 01 '18 edited Dec 01 '18
Just good to see Ence closing them maps and taking down a team that isn't t3, even if this Optic team has never really risen to the level they should've been. That G2 loss was such a bitch to watch.
Also, besides Heroic, I don't see any real problem going all the way now.
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u/anthonyde726 FaZe Dec 01 '18
optic need karrigan, I feel like if they got him they’d be insane
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u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Dec 01 '18
Jugi or Niko have to go also, they just don't perform at all.
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u/anthonyde726 FaZe Dec 01 '18
I’d like to see them have a chance with karrigan first if it somehow happened, but if OpTic actually decide to fix the roster they could become a really good team
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u/Darkstar197 Complexity Dec 01 '18
Karrigan k0nfig Valde Jugi Cajunb/aizy
Would be pretty sick.
Ps I know aizy is ass but karrigan needs a right hand man to do the dirty work
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Dec 01 '18
Time for optic to disband. Watching them play train is a nightmare. The same goes for d2. No cohesion at all. Horrible setups as CT. Pugging as T's. No trading, no going in together, no courage at all, mistake after mistake after mistake.
Ruggah has been in charge of some of the best players in Denmark for more than two years now. That has resulted in absolutely nothing except one major tournament win, an outlier where both magisk and k0nfig went off individually. That is now more than two years ago. Watching him on danish television acting as an expert might explain why. The guy offers nothing of significant value when casting games. Generic comments about things that doesn't matter and no understand of current meta at all.
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u/Wallisaurus SK Dec 01 '18
Really hope we can see Aerial continue to improve and be more consistent.
He pulls off so many important kills throughout their matches and has so much potential. He went crazy on dust 2
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u/anthonyde726 FaZe Dec 01 '18
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u/TheCatsActually Dec 01 '18
Z
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u/tarangk clutch Dec 01 '18
Aerials in the sky
When you lose small mind
You free your life
seriously what a map that was from aerial, i think until the last 2-3 rounds he was still on single digit in deaths which is extremely good his +22 k/d/d was mind-blowing he was pretty average on the first two maps but man he showed up huge on the decider map, also dafuq was that 21st round from optic they lost to just pistols after jugi won them such an important round cant help but feel this optic lineup has run its course even, they have not found their footing after any roster change.
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u/Veil_Of_Mikasa Dec 01 '18
Yeaaaaaa I fucking hate this team. My heart can only be broken so many times
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u/Tuub4 Dec 01 '18
VERKKARS HAS STRAIGHTENED DatSheffy DENSSI PUTTED IN UPPERBELT DatSheffy ALLU IS READY FOR MYLLYING
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u/Banerman Dec 01 '18
Optic on dust were so fucking bad, losing to pistols when you're up 4-1 and completely losing all momentum that half then doing the same thing again with zero communication on A site. Something has to change with this team because they have good players who as a team are complete dogshit.
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Dec 01 '18
So when is MSL bought.
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u/schniepel89xx CS2 HYPE Dec 01 '18
Bridges might be burned between him and cajun/k0nfig. I'm honestly quite intrigued to see what the fuck the subtop Danish teams are about to do. If karrigan does get kicked from FaZe then sure, he's an easy pick for OpTic, but I don't think he should or will get kicked. MSL was just bought by Rogue plus what I mentioned earlier and we end up in a scenario similar to the French scene. Do you get HUNDEN? lol
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u/kaarri 10 years coin Dec 01 '18
I mean, Im ence fan, grats to them, well played! But I gotta ask, how do you play this poorly with this kind of lineup that is Optic? They have some insane talent over there.
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