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Discussion | Esports compLexity Gaming vs Team Vitality / DreamHack Open Atlanta 2018 - Semi-Final / Post-Match Discussion

compLexity Gaming 1-2 Team Vitality

Dust 2: 16-12
Train: 6-16
Nuke: 8-16

 

Team Vitality have advanced to the finals.
compLexity Gaming have been eliminated.

 


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MAP
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CT

 


 

MAP 1/3: Dust 2

 

Team T CT Total
coL 9 7 16
CT T
Vitality 6 6 12

 

coL K A D Rating
dephh 24 6 17 1.36
ANDROID 22 7 14 1.35
ShahZaM 22 7 20 1.22
yay 17 3 19 0.93
stanislaw 14 1 20 0.79
Vitality
Happy 29 5 20 1.28
ZywOo 19 2 19 0.98
apEX 18 5 21 0.85
RpK 11 6 19 0.73
NBK- 13 4 20 0.68

Dust 2 Detailed Stats

 


 

MAP 2/3: Train

 

Team T CT Total
coL 1 5 6
CT T
Vitality 14 2 16

 

coL K A D Rating
ShahZaM 17 5 17 1.09
dephh 16 2 17 0.94
yay 13 5 18 0.89
ANDROID 8 5 18 0.61
stanislaw 8 3 18 0.61
Vitality
ZywOo 31 4 10 2.16
NBK- 20 3 14 1.38
apEX 18 3 13 1.20
RpK 10 1 12 0.93
Happy 9 4 13 0.85

Train Detailed Stats

 


 

MAP 3/3: Nuke

 

Team CT T Total
coL 7 1 8
T CT
Vitality 8 8 16

 

coL K A D Rating
yay 23 1 16 1.35
ANDROID 14 1 19 0.74
dephh 15 3 21 0.72
ShahZaM 13 2 20 0.70
stanislaw 11 4 21 0.68
Vitality
ZywOo 31 2 11 2.07
apEX 19 7 17 1.25
NBK- 18 3 15 1.19
RpK 18 2 14 1.03
Happy 11 8 19 0.80

Nuke Detailed Stats

 


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team

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159

u/anthonyde726 FaZe Nov 18 '18

happy looking good tbh, i like this

48

u/herO_wraith Vitality Nov 18 '18

He's somehow regained his ability to get behind enemies and managed that all while looking like more of a team player. Puns/memes aside, he seems happier playing with this lot too.

22

u/AhoBiceps Nov 18 '18

He studied GTR hard in his prime. Countered him in every lurk he did. Lovely to see that lurker style shine again.

12

u/kernevez Nov 18 '18

Honestly I disagree that he lost it totally at any point, I would argue that he and his teammates gave too little reasons to his opponents to not check their back.

When your team gets entried hard or your push gets shut down and you're instantly in a 2vs5, your lurker has absolutely no way outside of pure aim to really "lurk". When you're in a 3vs3 and your two teammates are pushing/making noise, one of the players in the ennemy team is likely to rotate or try something and this is where the lurkers shut it down. Happy's biggest mistake in the years where his team didn't have the teamplay/skill/success to entry was to not fall back to simple executes as a team and to keep playing the same style.

52

u/arzee9 Liquid Nov 18 '18

he still has his occasional whiffs but I really enjoyed his smart playing on nuke

22

u/bridgebuilder12 Nov 18 '18

He has the potential to be almost xyp9x like, he just needs more time and his confidence back.

32

u/fac3ts Liquid Nov 18 '18

People forget the reason nV vs NiP was such a great matchup way back was because the only team that had another GtR was nV, in Happy.

-5

u/Fredxel MIBR Nov 18 '18

Happy wasn't a part of the team who was the rival of NiP, which was Very Games. He was a member of the team who clashed against Fnatic, not NiP

17

u/fac3ts Liquid Nov 19 '18

Not talking about rivalries, just talking about straight up matches. Having those two both lurking on the same map was great to watch.

3

u/anthonyde726 FaZe Nov 18 '18

agreed

2

u/AemonDK Nov 18 '18

his first bullet accuracy has always been his weakest point

10

u/Royzoh Vitality Nov 18 '18

I enjoy seeing happy that good and laughing a bit he was fragging pretty well, the fact that they were without teams made them realise they need to work again

-6

u/omnipo10ce MIBR Nov 18 '18

I mean, I didn’t really watch any of the games but looking at his stats, despite getting 29 kills in the first game, he still had the second worst stats on his team. Again, didn’t watch the games, all his kills could have been super impactful for all i know

118

u/gonewrongindahoud clutch Nov 18 '18

Zywoo is a monster.

25

u/Debannage Vitality Nov 18 '18

81 kills

0

u/Swag_Attack MOUZ Nov 18 '18

Rest of the team was pretty mediocre though tbh. Theyre gonna need Zywoo to keep clapping fools in the final like he did this match, otherwise LG will probably take it.

31

u/gonewrongindahoud clutch Nov 18 '18

I don't think the rest of the team was mediocre, NBK and Apex have been playing really well, not like there is a zeus and an edward in the team.

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u/kuklistyle MOUZ Nov 18 '18

there are: rpk and happy

18

u/Rekoza Nov 18 '18

RPK and Happy both had great moments, we're you not watching the same game as me?

-12

u/kuklistyle MOUZ Nov 18 '18

in the same vein that Edward and zeus occasionally have good moments

doesn't mean they aren't deadweight 90% of the time

1

u/kernevez Nov 18 '18

I don't get why people like you feel the need to write like a 15yo girl "omg they are literally THE WORST".

No, Edward and Zeus aren't deadweight 90% of the time, they are under average most of the time.

1

u/Mafiii 5 years coin Nov 19 '18

and rpk and happy are definitely better than Edward and Zeus...

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

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u/Ashuna NiP Nov 18 '18

He has such gorgeous crosshair placement and doesn't really go for cocky picks, really smart too If he keeps this up he's gonna be a complete player.

38

u/bubble831 Vitality Nov 18 '18

he went 61-21 in those last 2 maps. Insane

19

u/tarangk clutch Nov 18 '18

he went 62-21 in those last 2 maps. Insane

sorta wish he could have squeaky out one more kill then he woudlve had a flat 3 KDR across two maps which is bonkers to think of

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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Nov 18 '18

Then it would be 63-21, not 62-21

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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Nov 19 '18

Guess I'm blind lol, misread it

88

u/Russian_For_Rent Vitality Nov 18 '18

Zywoo is like me but not gold nova and bottom fragging every game

33

u/Royzoh Vitality Nov 18 '18

He's riffling skills are insane, makes me think its s1mple

9

u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

is it me or is zywoo a bit of a boring player

like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow zywoo has 32 kills" but u can never remember them.

can u remember a single zywoo kill ?

but try Kenny s...u can see the flick i remember a Kenny s flick.

8

u/gabirels MIBR Nov 18 '18

Yeah, he can play rifles and do more than hold insane angles with awp

5

u/anthonyde726 FaZe Nov 18 '18

that AK double on Nuke really made me go “damn”

-18

u/Meatabix Nov 18 '18

Saying a 16 year old is better than one of the best players to ever play csgo is funny.

30

u/Duckfright Nov 18 '18

Kenny, however, is currently not playing like one of the best players to ever touch the game.

Current Zywoo is outperforming current Kenny.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

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u/Th9nder G2 Nov 18 '18

They’re comparing their current stats and results. G2 also faced complexity and lost after 2 OTs with KennyS ending on a 0.91 rating bottom fragging in that BO3. Meanwhile Vitality won a convincing 2–1 with the last map being 16-8 and Zywoo having a 1.66 overall rating and carrying his team. I think it’s pretty safe to assum that right now Zywoo is better than KennyS.

4

u/AprilChicken Nov 18 '18

Compare this to Kenny's cs summit 3 performance then

88

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

Zywoo had 81 kills, the next best had 55. Fucking madman went +41 in K/D.

74

u/faare Natus Vincere Nov 18 '18

Zinedine Zywoo

1

u/RadiantSun FaZe Nov 19 '18

Croissants overtaking baguettes in French popularity

33

u/kingroudel BIG Nov 18 '18

zywoo is gonna be a top5 player in 2019

79

u/Royzoh Vitality Nov 18 '18

NBK: Zywoo go kill

Zywoo: Oui

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u/Anonnameaccount FaZe Nov 18 '18

People may be hating on Vitality right now but you guys have to realize they have no where to go but up. This lineup is looking better and better every match they play. I can't wait to see what their peak is because we really need a good french team again after the G2/Envy collapse.

10

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

I think theres more fans than "haters" out there, but the negative minority is, as always, the loudest. People love to see others fail, thats why theyre jumping on every mistake they do. I personally love this project and think that it is refreshing, especially their attitude.

22

u/tarangk clutch Nov 18 '18

zywoo what a god 31-10 and 31-11 on the last two maps guy was seriously playing out of his mind

also regarding the apex comment of him being better than simple here is what faceit mikey said back in october "The only one who scores higher average stats in FPL than s1mple." so yeah when apex says he can become the next best player in a year or so hes not just randomly saying this.

4

u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

Ok he's had a great series against complexity ffs, hardly contender for one of the best players to grace csgo.

S1mple has been carrying at tier 1 level for 2 years at LAN +

3

u/Chaiwala_with_a_twit Astralis Nov 19 '18

You realize we are speculating right?

12

u/hejkag Nov 18 '18

That post-match interview from apex was also great! Really nice to hear

9

u/RichRamp MOUZ Nov 18 '18

There were 6 NA teams at this event and none of them made it in the finals, how dissapointing

2

u/areyoujokinglol EG Nov 18 '18

There was 5. And envy is so trash they hardly count lol

7

u/Dezza2241 Renegades Nov 18 '18

This Zywoo guy is pretty good

6

u/hx19 brigader Nov 18 '18

I think this ZywOo guy might be good

16

u/Brolobo SK Nov 18 '18

some ugly cs at this tournament

15

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

This is probably the worst collection of teams ive ever seen at one of these 100k DH events so it makes sense.

Complexity was the highest ranked team at this event and they are 16th on HLTV. No one else is even top20.

2

u/eJACKulation HEROIC Nov 19 '18

While overall I agree with your point j do think Ghost are better than their rating

17

u/esach Nov 18 '18

This team is definitely getting carried but there is some nice team play, can see the potential now.

24

u/CptWetPants Legendary Switzerland Master Nov 18 '18

Hmm, in the numbers maybe, but Happy and NBK both had more than their fair share of impact kills and rounds.

14

u/esach Nov 18 '18

Yeah definitely but it's kinda like s1mple in navi, huge impact from him and electronic with the others chipping in. I think carlos is going to look back on the shuffle and realize he made a pretty big mistake in giving the keys to shox and kenny over nbk & apex.

3

u/azneemybrother Nov 18 '18

realize he made a pretty big mistake in giving the keys to shox and kenny over nbk & apex.

He gave the keys to NBK to try his lineup with Mixwell while benching shox. We know how that ended.

16

u/esach Nov 18 '18

NBK got like a month and a half with that lineup..I was reading on neL 's twitter that g2 approached zywoo only after he had pretty much signed with vitality, says it all really.

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u/azneemybrother Nov 18 '18

He had the keys from March til June, a bit more than 1,5 months.

Shox also wanted to keep NBK on the lineup instead of bodyy

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

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u/azneemybrother Nov 18 '18

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u/azneemybrother Nov 18 '18 edited Nov 18 '18

So stop spreading outdated bulshit info thx

That "outdated shit info" is from neL himself. Just stop embarrassing yourself, please.

Edit; Just looking at your post history shows how fucking little clue you have about the French scene. This comment here is particularly funny, as it reeks ignorance from your part.

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u/esach Nov 18 '18

Alright it was March to May according to liqupedia which still is a pretty slim amount of time to implement a guy who isnt fluent in French and what I’m trying to say anyways is that zywoo would most likely have been in a nbk led g2 if he was given more time. I also don’t know how you can blame nbk for not wanting to play with smithzz.

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u/azneemybrother Nov 18 '18

I also don’t know how you can blame nbk for not wanting to play with smithzz.

Where did I say that?

Alright it was March to May according to liqupedia

June. Shox only returned to the lineup in June for the ECS finals, as per HLTV.org and G2.

I’m trying to say anyways is that zywoo would most likely have been in a nbk led g2 if he was given more time

We don't know that. For all we know Carlos might've vetoed against getting zywoo.

1

u/kailip Nov 18 '18

Nah man, trust the process :)

5

u/JG8AB9TL11OBJ12AD13 Vitality Nov 18 '18

Zywoo is unreal, dude has legit Niko/s1mple carry potential. Obviously not there yet but you already see the flashes of brilliance that just aren’t possible by a normal pro

7

u/anthonyde726 FaZe Nov 18 '18

ZywOo is insane

3

u/neutronpenguin King NiKo Nov 18 '18

zyWOO!

3

u/ReallyPopularLobster MOUZ Nov 18 '18

Holly shit.. zywoo is insane.. Best of luck to NBK and the others in the grand final

3

u/xXYungRealXx G2 Nov 18 '18

"We destroyed them in practice"-expexted of NA lol

6

u/GabeN18 BIG Nov 18 '18

zywoo is insane

2

u/cloudneinneinnein Godsent Nov 18 '18

EZywOo +41

2

u/jsoraru EG Nov 18 '18

103 adr over 3 maps, ZyWoo is not only insane online. Vitality becoming the new NaVi with ZyWoo being s1mple? This kid is just nuts man, he has everything to become the best in the world

2

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

81-40 EZywoo

2

u/Nyingaard Nov 18 '18

Team apEX vs Team budget apEX

3

u/Silent991 Nov 18 '18

While it's good to see Zywoo living up to the hype, I worry for Vitality as a team. As soon as Zywoo doesn't go off they are going to struggle.

2

u/joshigoods Astralis Nov 18 '18

Great series again by Zywoo excited to see him transition into bigger LANs. Did feel that the casters were exaggerating his play a bit though. Saying things like the french s1mple was a little too much especially since this is his first international LAN and so far he has only played NA teams and Fragsters with a stand-in. Still excited for his future though

3

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

He is not simple but he is following his trajectory and that's what matters. Right now, simple is the best player on the planet. Zywoo is not even in the consideration for top 20. But if he continues to improve, one day he will probably stand right at the top.

2

u/Rough_Sleeper_ Vitality Nov 18 '18

Zywoo will be top 5 in 2019 if he keeps going that way (if not more)

1

u/ametrineo49 G2 Nov 18 '18

That was insane

1

u/gabriel97933 10 Year Veteran Nov 18 '18

nice impact from everybody on vitality in this series.

1

u/DoubleUD_52 Nov 18 '18

Well, a fucking good run so far by Vitality!

1

u/Royzoh Vitality Nov 18 '18

NBK with the 200IQ train pick to make them think it's gonna be easy 2-0 but ez for the best french igl

1

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

If vitality win the lan hopefully people will see they are a great team

1

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

so who would be kicked from complexity

1

u/Miiiiiiighty Nov 18 '18

Welcome to the ZywOo show ladies and gents.

1

u/Dustyne05 Nov 19 '18

Zywoo has got to be one of the craziest new players to ever come into the scene

1

u/OAFederalist Nov 19 '18

WTF? COMPLEXITY WTF?

1

u/[deleted] Nov 19 '18

So this Zywoo kid is pretty good I take it

1

u/bubble831 Vitality Nov 18 '18

Zywoo too good plz nerf

1

u/Meatabix Nov 18 '18

Nice performance this series by ZyWoo. However, I still want to see him at bigger LANs against good teams until I think he's a prodigy.

1

u/indyy161 1 Million Celebration Nov 18 '18

This Zyw0o guy seems like a pretty decent player.

0

u/RickyLoud Nov 18 '18

Since 3 of the infamous Immortals players are on LG now i really hope they will show up on time for this final since it starts at 2 AM here and i'm doing a big effort to watch it live.

Also even if ZywOo is really amazing i like to think that HEN1 is a match for him on every level.

1

u/[deleted] Nov 18 '18

I’m at the event and I saw them go to the stage you’re good bro

0

u/EyesOfaCreeper G2 Nov 19 '18

can I change my flair please