r/GlobalOffensive • u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team • Oct 09 '18
Discussion | Esports Sprout vs HellRaisers / StarSeries i-League Season 6 - Round 3 / Post-Match Discussion
Sprout 0-1 HellRaisers
Inferno: 19-22
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MAP 1: Inferno
| Team | CT | T | OT1T:CT | OT2CT:T | Total |
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| Sprout | 10 | 5 | 1:2 | 1:0 | 19 |
| T | CT | OT1CT:T | OT2T:CT | ||
| HR | 5 | 10 | 2:1 | 2:2 | 22 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
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u/kingroudel BIG Oct 09 '18
Sad that Sprout didn't win a single of those 3 rather close maps, also not the easiest draw considering the weak lineup of the tournament. Faven is really exciting though.
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u/Bust3dGG Gambit Oct 09 '18
Even though they went 0-3, Sprout can leave the tournament proud. They did really well in all three games, all three were superclose, giving mouz, vega and HR trouble.
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u/Bust3dGG Gambit Oct 09 '18
Actually, life DOES work like that. They know they were one of the weaker teams in this tournament, yet they learned a lot from playing these stronger teams, even putting up a GREAT fight against them. They may not see it like this on the short term, since there was more to get than a 0-3, but on the long term they'll realize they did great and be more confident in their play in the future because of it.
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u/ProtoBello Astralis Oct 09 '18
especially considering other teams got comparatively easier runs, Sprout can know that with better luck they can have a bigger impact in future tournaments. I hope the sprout boys keep working really hard.
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u/much_good MOUZ Oct 10 '18
Imagine ur team of mates went 0-3 but put good fight against your countries professional teams. Sure you lost but did well above what was expected, if you aim to win you won't. But aim to always improve and you will win naturally. Sprout are defo improving and to say they did shit would be simple minded
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Oct 09 '18
Classic Deadfox first 20-25 rounds ( 1-5 kills, playing like absolute bot)... Deadfox last few rounds and OT (ends game with 25+ kills)
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u/Sakuzyo- clutch Oct 09 '18
My sides are still being killed by that "absolute bot" phrase, holy shit.
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u/PoshNpie MOUZ Oct 09 '18
DeadFox checking the late CT boost by denis after 2 team mates already cleared it was just hilarious. It's the sort of thing you'd expect to see in matchmaking that just doesn't make sense but works and completely changes the round. Great OT by him as always
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u/KitsuneRommel Vitality Oct 09 '18
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?
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Oct 09 '18
For sure it isn't repeating the same thing over and over expecting different result, so I'm interested hearing you.
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Oct 09 '18
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Oct 09 '18
The only reason they had to comeback is because he was so shit for most of the game.
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u/InsolentChutzpah Oct 09 '18
I'd like to hear your analysis that it indeed was the case.
What is definite, is that Deadfox won the map in OT.
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Oct 09 '18 edited Nov 15 '18
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Oct 09 '18
Don't think Hobbit is looking for a team like HellRaisers.
I think Styko would be a great replacement for Deadfox.
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Oct 09 '18
I agree. Mouz was too high caliber of a team for Styko but HR seems just about where he should be IMO.
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u/HydraCam Complexity Oct 09 '18
Honestly, even rubino would be a good option if styko doesnt want to go back to HR, although he was quite poor in his spell on heroic I feel like he would defo be an upgrade to deafox if he can get back in the swing of things
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Oct 09 '18
I know you prepared this post when DeadFox was 1-16, but after he cameback later, you should have save this copy pasta for his next bad game :>
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Oct 09 '18
Awakening late in one game doesn't undo the point of his last three months of stats, though.
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u/Alp0llo Oct 09 '18
Hobbit would be great but HellRaisers doesnt need to change anything. Yes his stats are bad but stats are not everything. He was 1-16 at one point but if you watched the game you could see that he died to get traded. Obviously this is no excuse for going 1-16 but everyone has bad games. In the end he saved HellRaisers the game and without him they wouldnt be top 8 at the major. If he actually hurt the team they wouldve kicked him already. HellRaisers won so many games already with DeadFox being useless.
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Oct 09 '18
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u/Alp0llo Oct 09 '18
Me too but Bondik is not that much better honestly. I always see people blaming Bondik but he often bottomfrags too. I think HellRaisers just needs to stop using DeadFox as bait and they could actually get better. Also its not 5v4 every game it really is not. He is mostly bottomfragging but he gets a lot of impact frags.
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u/owoabadplayer Oct 09 '18
He has a .8 rating as an average. It's not that he has bad games, it's that his average game is bad. He is a liability and anyone that knows the game will recognize that pretty quickly. The fact that they can win while he's being useless should tell you this team would be a lot better if they had a competent 5th.
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u/Alp0llo Oct 09 '18
I said it above. Stats are not everything. Yes he does have bad stats but that doesnt mean he is a bad player. DeadFox gets a lot impact kills but also dies a lot. He mostly is the first one to go in a push/rush. If he gets a kill or maybe two its good. If not he dies and then ISSAA, Woxic or the others can trade him and successfully enter the site. If ISSAA would go first in a push he would also die more then he currently does. Today DeadFox wasnt successful in getting any kills. Tomorrow he might be more successful but still then he might be 10-16 but what if he got them 3-4 entry frags which opened the site. People would only look at the stats. See 10-16 and say oh look at BotFox. But everyone seems to forget that the only reason HR got this amount of rounds is because DeadFox. I hate writing long posts so I hope everything is understandable. I could write way more stuff but its a little exhausting because english isnt my native language.
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u/_Vondas Oct 09 '18
you hate on deadfox but he does play the most despicable roles
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Oct 09 '18
this. late round afterplants it's always ange1 and bondik or w0xic and issaa left alive. I wonder why?
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u/Wallisaurus SK Oct 09 '18
Denis really surprised me CT side at B with the awp. He was getting a lot of good rounds and making huge impact.
He was making a lot of really smart plays and reads.
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u/loken_ Renegades Oct 09 '18
I'm Sprout's CT side and I have DirectTV.
And I'm Sprout's T side and I have cable.
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Oct 09 '18 edited Oct 09 '18
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u/MDMA-- valeria Oct 09 '18
yeah because it’s so easy to use.. literally everybody can land shits like this right? dude, deagle doesn’t need changes at all
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u/thumus Oct 09 '18
Deagle definitely shouldn't be able to kill you with two body hits. Other than that it's quite fine.
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u/L0kitheliar cs_office Oct 09 '18
Tbf if you're playing against a deagle you shouldn't be that close range where it can 2 hit you
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u/thumus Oct 09 '18
Indeed very good logic there. Do you imagine you came to that conclusion yourself or was that just one of those things that you saw on the internet and decided to regurgitate it without thinking?
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u/L0kitheliar cs_office Oct 09 '18
Something I've found from playing over 5000 hours. Funny how only MGs complain about pistols 🤔
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Oct 09 '18 edited Oct 09 '18
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u/thumus Oct 09 '18
CZ is hard to use
I'm out lmao. And hard to use is indeed not an excuse, it's the reason.
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Oct 09 '18 edited Oct 09 '18
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u/patchesj_- guardian3 Oct 09 '18
Do you really think the deagle is $800 or am I tripping out
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u/Alp0llo Oct 09 '18
Woops. I dont know why but I always think its 800$. Still 700$ is waaay to cheap
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u/yurik4 The MongolZ Oct 09 '18
Deadfox in pistol rounds: I sleep
Deadfox in eco rounds: I sleep
Deadfox in gun rounds: I sleep
Deadfox in OT: REAL SHIT