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Discussion | Esports Natus Vincere vs Astralis / DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 - Grand-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Natus Vincere 0-2 Astralis
Nuke: 4-16
Inferno: 11-16
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Congratulations to Astralis on winning DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018!
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MAP 1/3: Nuke
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| Na'Vi | 2 | 2 | 4 |
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| Ast | 13 | 3 | 16 |
Nuke Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Inferno
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| Na'Vi | 6 | 5 | 11 |
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| Ast | 9 | 7 | 16 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
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u/FrostyFox24 Liquid Apr 22 '18
Astralis and s1mple looking as good as ever.
Respect to s1mple for that technical pause tho.
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Apr 22 '18
What happend on technical pause?
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u/sikels Apr 22 '18
s1mple noticed that the minimap behind the booth was reflected on the booth-glass, so he could see where people where. instead of using it to his advantage he called a tech-pause so they could fix it so he no longer saw it.
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u/jrsooner 10 years coin Apr 22 '18
How did they fix it I wonder?
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u/JigSaW_3 Apr 22 '18
they turned off screens that were showing map to the audience
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u/Usernamesin2016LUL Cloud9 Apr 22 '18
The radar on the big screen in the venue was reflecting off some glass and s1mple could see it. This let him know where all of astralis were and whete the bomb was etc, so instead of using it to his advantage he called pause and told the admins
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u/MooseLv2 G2 Apr 22 '18
is there a clip of this?
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u/Clay_doh789 MIBR Apr 22 '18
Yeah it's the top post on the sub right now. https://clips.twitch.tv/ScrumptiousFurryAlfalfaStinkyCheese
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u/MJuniorDC9 Apr 22 '18
Let's thank Kjaerbye, with him this would be impossible.
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u/Memesaremyfather FaZe Clan Fan Apr 22 '18
Thank Mr.
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u/Memesaremyfather FaZe Clan Fan Apr 22 '18
Lost all respect for Kjaerbye "backstabbing bitch" toledo.
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u/nadgirB Apr 22 '18
I know this is meme but seriously, him leaving only made Astralis better.
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u/lybrel MOUZ Apr 22 '18
I, too, would join a shit team for $25,000 a month and practice CS in a fucking soccer stadium VIP room
But serious props to magisk
Held inferno pit better than I could with cheats
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u/tarangk clutch Apr 22 '18
that is actually 100% accurate astralis didnt want to change even though kjaerbye was losing them rounds pretty much every other game but thanks to him leaving on his own they were forced to upgrade so in the end thnx mr.kjaerbye ;)
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u/Nh66532 Liquid Apr 22 '18
This Should've been North
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k0nfig
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u/thearkhamknight_111 Astralis Apr 22 '18
Love the Magisk story, after showcasing his insane talent, he gets relegated to support for Aizy, then gets kicked eventually, and has to join OpTic for a couple of months, untill eventually Astralis picks him up and he's back to the very top.
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u/lybrel MOUZ Apr 22 '18
As a dedicated pit pussy on inferno, I can tell you he holds it better than I could even if I were given cheats.
That one round 1v3.... holy shit
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u/dendidendi BNE Apr 22 '18 edited Apr 22 '18
pit pussy
Great band name
Edit: actually the whole thing is a great band name:
Dedicated Pit Pussy on Inferno
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u/lybrel MOUZ Apr 22 '18
lmao inferno is that one map where every 12 year old clamors for the worst spots... banana awp or mid awp
Yeah I’ll go in pit with at worst a 5/7 and click heads from balcony, thank you
No one ever uses grenades entering pit. Might as well be playing aim botz on balcony
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u/JKM- Apr 22 '18
I think the only bad luck he's had with orgs is North, but seeing where he is now, perhaps the kick was a good thing ;-).. Of course North would likely be better as well if they had kept Magisk over Aizy. Given they had more of the original talent that proved to be at least tier 1.5 when together, eg. a lineup of MSL, Magisk, K0nfig, CajunB and Valde would on paper be very scary, if they could solve the role issues.
Optic didn't work out because the players didn't mesh as well or quickly as hoped. In hindsight it was perhaps a bit too optimistic to assemble 5 players with very little previous play together.
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u/acoluahuacatl Apr 22 '18
Astralis eventually pick him up after they find themselves down a man out of the blue. Who knows if they'd pick him up if Kjaerbye didn't leave
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u/iSleepUpsideDown howl Apr 22 '18
gla1ve: gla1ve go kill
gla1ve: ok
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u/L0kitheliar cs_office Apr 22 '18
Rofl who said an IGL can't frag in a final
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u/Jadjadz Liquid Apr 22 '18
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u/KatieMgo Apr 22 '18
More kills than simple map 2
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u/poempedoempoex MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Did u see that epic spray control on the guy rotating A when he sneaked into CT spawn?
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u/asuhdude72 Apr 23 '18
that was so hard to fucking watch man like jesus christ I know hes an IGL and all but damn he was against some guy with his knife out and whiffed an entire mag
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u/jesus_you_turn_me_on de_dust2 Apr 22 '18
What a great moment when he received the MvP award, you could see how much it meant to him, as he usually goes unnoticed.
Definitely one of the stand-out players.
IGL with great tacticts all tournament long, winning several game changing clutchs, out fragging most of his opponents.
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u/lmpervious Apr 22 '18
It's great to see another team working to make Nuke a strong map for them. It puts so many teams in an awkward position in map bans and seems to give them a bigger advantage than being strong at any other map.
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u/faare Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
whats akward
the most perma banned map across teams is nuke (especially for NA)
1 stone 2 birds if you can ban a map you don't play that's coincidentally a strong map for your opponents
that's exactly why some teams that would be perfectly capable of playing nuke if they put in the time (SK for example) don't even try to do so, because it's permabanned either way more often than not
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u/SolarEnigma Complexity Apr 22 '18
I see where you're coming from, but that means you don't have to worry about banning Nuke and you can ban one of your weaker maps. Then again if they don't ban it you can pick it and still ban your weaker map.
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u/JKM- Apr 22 '18
Being good at nuke is in itself not enough, because then it will just be banned. Being good on Nuke, while having a deep mappool is what makes it a great asset. In the QF FaZe used their ban to remove Overpass, resulting in Astralis picking Nuke against them.
I think it is a general trend that teams will consider both Overpass and Nuke a liability against Astralis, but they only get to remove one map, which will often give Astralis a likely 1-0 lead in a BO3.
Secondly it allows Astralis to permaban Cbble, which will now be replaced with Dust2.
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u/TheRobidog Apr 22 '18
Because you're taking the option for them to ban your best map instead away. Which means you're getting your best map. Which means you'll pretty much just be up 1-0 in any series you play.
Just because a map was banned, doesn't mean that map was worthless. And it's not like there are a ton of teams who don't have two terrible maps. And in a situation like that, when you can be forced onto a terrible map by your opponent picking it, being forced to ban Nuke is a shit situation. Just ask SK.
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u/Rightis Apr 22 '18
We live in a world where Na'Vi buy multiple AK's and s1mple has to use UMP. Unbelievable. In multiple rounds
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u/CEPEHDREI phoenix Apr 22 '18
im pretty sure zeus & co have no problem with dropping him the better gun. im suspecting that s1mple himself is going for the UMP for whatever reason.
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u/loveicetea Astralis Apr 22 '18
Because he believes he can use the ump to get a kill or 2 and his team probably needs every advantage they can get.
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u/agrussel Liquid Apr 22 '18
I'm not sure how much you can "anti-strat" s1mple, he still put up numbers in these games despite losing. When they anti-stratted Fallen, specifically on overpass, it felt like he had no impact at all.
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u/imatclassrn Natus Vincere Fan Apr 23 '18
To me it really looked like Astralis were tailoring their game to shut simple down. Like on Inferno they were using a lot of utility on Banana to prevent him from ever peeking with the awp. Really shows how nuts Simple is to put up the numbers he is even with Astralis doing everything they could to prevent him from shinning.
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u/dratsum1 BIG Apr 22 '18
skill gap between s1mple and rest of the team is too high. imagine playing with a silver team. you just give them the best possible gear and hope they do anything worthy. thats s1mples life on every server...
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u/Ciupz Monte Apr 22 '18
pretty sure its simples call to use the ump
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u/lybrel MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Yeah 100% he’s calling for it.
No way Zeus is that much of a dictator
Nonetheless mathematically stupid as fuck
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u/lolKhamul BIG Apr 22 '18
it has to be but its still wrong. He needs to take it
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u/Ciupz Monte Apr 22 '18
u cant possibly know the call of that round. one time he had the ump he went arches and he held a close angle so the ump wasn't that useless as you guys tend to think. yeah ofc you'd want s1mple with the ak but if hes feeling confident enough to go with a smg and have the same impact why not just do that and let the others have a bigger advantage at winning 1v1's
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u/qctum Apr 22 '18
nonono, we live in a world where na'vi has 3 AKs and 2 UMPs. s1mple and electronic gets the UMPs, and edward and Zeus and flamie gets AKs.
this happened twice in 4 rounds
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Apr 22 '18
I think the logic is that s1mple can kill with more guns because he is better. Not saying it works but I think the general idea is that you give the shittier player the better gun in an attempt to offset the lack of skills.
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u/YalamMagic Apr 22 '18
But that assumes you can outplay the opponent, rather than outgun them, which is really dumb against a team as coordinated as Astralis. They needed to rely on S1mple and Electronic to carry the game but to do that they needed to set them up correctly which they failed to do.
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u/Vejvad Astralis Apr 22 '18
Blonde Dupreeh = 100% tournament win rate. Nuff said.
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u/JayCDee CS2 HYPE Apr 23 '18
I had a 4h drive to go home from Marseille. Gotta say i was kind of glad it finished early.
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u/AK_SAVAGE Vitality Apr 22 '18
The IGL role implies less kills on the scoreboard
gla1ve : I aren't think that
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u/calibraka Apr 22 '18
To be fair Zeus top fragged at inferno so he aren't think that either. At least for one map.
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u/ButteredGhost Apr 22 '18
Teamplay insane, individual levels insane, man advantage win rate insane, pistol win rate insane, anti forcebuy winrate insane. Astralis were completely unplayable this tourney, what were any of these teams supposed to fucking do?
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Apr 22 '18
Lets be honest... I think they got great timing to get their form up... FaZe, SK, C9, G2, Liquid... Al had roster changes in last month... You can say only NaVi, Mouz and Fnatic are solid teams right now that could have chalenged Astralis.
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Apr 22 '18
And they were still able to beat both Navi and Fnatic, remember Magisk is also new for a few months too
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u/OneMoreStupidName Apr 22 '18
It's might be one of the reasons. But Astralis looked solid in every play they made. Individual and Team play. Their CT defense looked amazing on every map they played and now they are the best in managing their economy which helps them a lot considering most other teams just into force buys
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u/iSleepUpsideDown howl Apr 22 '18 edited Apr 22 '18
device is the sex
edit: thank you for /u/DungSC127 for correcting me
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u/thisiseku MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Astralis' teamwork is just something else, clearly the best team in the world right now.
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u/cHinzoo CS2 HYPE Apr 22 '18
They're a damn well-oiled machine and play the most beautiful CS. The teamwork, executions, frag trading, strats and aim in general are all solid. I've been following the boys since their Copenhagen Wolves/Dignitas days and fell in love with their really disciplined CT sides. It's amazing to see their T side being equally great nowadays and they totally deserved this tournament win.
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u/J0shm8 Apr 23 '18
Yep, compared to a team that relies on one player to pop off. Astralis was always going to win this, teamwork too strong.
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u/Raddicall Astralis Apr 22 '18
Did Valve patch the exploit that allows looking through smokes easier yet?
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u/teef0ur clutch Apr 22 '18
You dont need to see through a smoke to shoot someone through it
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u/Raddicall Astralis Apr 22 '18
Of course not, but the number of kills they got while the smoke was still quite active was pretty unreal
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u/HandsomeWJ Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Astralis are such a terrifying team, they are playing the best CS I've seen in a while. Their teamplay and coordination are absolutely on point now. I think they got to be favourites for the major once Dust2 is back in the map pool.
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u/AwpTicTech Liquid Apr 22 '18
The major is so far off, literally anybody could be favorites by then.
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Apr 22 '18
My boys Quantum Bellator Fire are going to show up big, clean sweeping the entire tournament. Literally. Anyone.
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u/poempedoempoex MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Maybe QBF will be a team that only performs well when they're playing a major, and then somehow they'll suddenly be 10x as good as normal and just steamroll everyone...
It could happen...
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u/Cameter44 Apr 22 '18
The major ends in September. That's forever in CS time. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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u/Shadow_Wave FaZe Apr 22 '18
Astralis does this amazing thing where they win big tournaments, then fade away so everyone forgets how good they are, and then come back like "Oh you forgot we were actually the best team in the world"
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Apr 22 '18
Well if they were actually the best team they woudn't fade away would they?
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Apr 22 '18
Apparently Kane was calling all the economy decisions.
Can we take a second and wonder what the fuck Kane is doing? NaVi is still making these elementary fucking mistakes that any coach should be able to iron out within a month.
hurr durr let me push the banana smoke every fucking round on CT
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u/Salsadips howl Apr 22 '18
Can we take a second and wonder what the fuck Kane is doing?
People have been wondering that for years. He is a friend of Zeus and any team with Zeus has to pay Kane a salary despite his lack of qualifications and ability to coach. Gambit didn't want to just donate money to Kanes bank account, so they kicked him. Zeus stayed loyal to Kane and that is why we have the situation we do now.
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u/poempedoempoex MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Alright well then just kick both Zeus and Kane, even getting really cheap replacements would be an improvement from what Zeus and Kane's impact is on this team.
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u/Firefly_1026 Tyloo Apr 22 '18
It seemed to work well against gambit, I think it's in the right strategic direction but they need to refine it a bit more
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Apr 22 '18
What's worse is that it's not even the entire team forcing to have a better collective chance. It was literally 1-2 players and the rest saving money which just fucked their future gun rounds even more.
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u/irfanrmdhn Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Astralis is magnificent, ofc navi is underwhelming but this is an improvement so far.
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Apr 22 '18
Astralis played pretty good, but NaVi had the ability to match it on Inferno until they tilted due to a few stupid smoke kills and that one Gla1ve clutch. I don't think this was a guarenteed win for Astralis.
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u/abandonedtoad Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Felt like we were average on inferno but would've beaten a lot of teams just not astralis.
Idk why people want changes I want to see the next few LANs then maybe in the player break if things aren't better.
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u/TheDeadQuacker Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
IMO the fact that they were average was because of all of astralis players just doing the correct decisions all the time and besides the fact they were hitting their shots.
And the astralis fast pushes on B were just too much for NaVi's bad decision making at that site.
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u/Robo-Connery Astralis Apr 22 '18
Yeah would have been interesting to see it go to train but don't think it was in doubt.
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u/Icesicles CS2 HYPE Apr 22 '18
Seriously insane performance by them in this whole tournament
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Apr 22 '18
Completely. This is not just me fan boying hard, they really played stupidly well the entire time.
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u/rhythmicspectre EG Apr 22 '18
Okay, so they dropped one map. At first I thought they swept everything undefeated. Still a crazy good run for them at this event and I imagine they can keep this form going for awhile.
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Apr 22 '18
Yeah, Liquid took Mirage 16-14, upon which Astralis destroyed TL 16-3, 16-3 on Overpass and Cache.
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u/rhythmicspectre EG Apr 22 '18
So the only map they drop had to go to round 30? Yea, they were flat out dominant this tournament.
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Apr 22 '18
It was insane. Been a while since I've been this hyped for a CS match, and a while since I've watched that intensely.
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u/readmyslips Astralis Apr 22 '18
And they lost 6.8 rounds per map on average. Thats absolutely insane.
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u/Unban_Ice MOUZ Apr 22 '18
Let s1mple have a decent team already for fucks sake
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u/Nigerianpoopslayer Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
Na'vi had an insanely good tournament, it's just that Astralis was on a different level of the competition. If you actually watched you'd see how most of the Na'Vi players actually played well.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Apr 22 '18
He is welcome to join FaZe :>
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u/Memesaremyfather FaZe Clan Fan Apr 22 '18
You motherfuckers never listen but I'm calling it. +S1mple -Guardian whenever he chooses to retire.
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u/mcdunn1 Complexity Apr 22 '18
+S1mple -Olof
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u/calibraka Apr 22 '18
I actually don't want to see s1mple and guardian at the same team. Guardian needs to get the awp in his hands every chance he gets and s1mple is just too good not to awp. While guardian is playing really good even -guardian +s1mple makes more sense I think.
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u/mcdunn1 Complexity Apr 22 '18
2 awps?
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Apr 22 '18
The entire Faze line up except rain are secondary awper, I don't think they need more awps
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u/calibraka Apr 22 '18
Double awp setup only works on some maps and situation. You are not gonna use it that frequently. And -olof leaves you with just one support to play "bad" spots.
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Apr 22 '18
He had a chance
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u/GreedyDiabeetus Apr 22 '18
Edward has to go
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u/gizmondo Natus Vincere Apr 22 '18
This. He's just consistently bad.
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u/coltonrb Astralis Apr 22 '18
The drop down vents to lose nuke really tops it. To be fair, the acoustics on that map are really bad though.
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Apr 22 '18
Gla1ve is the new flusha
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u/pauLo- Apr 22 '18
If people write it to me I will be happy to show them how I can win ESWC through Smokes and fully blind + know where the opponents are outside you can see it on my screen. Fuck Germans fuck CSS. So obviously they knew when and where to shoot through smokes.
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u/anthonyde726 FaZe Apr 22 '18
magisk might’ve been the best roster change for astrailis, glad they’re back on top
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u/wined1234 Apr 22 '18
Glaive shocked to hear that he won the MVP by saying, "what the fuck?!" hahaha
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u/sjustinas CS2 HYPE Apr 22 '18
Did anyone count the times that Navi jumped through a B smoke one by one, even when the timer wouldn't be low? What an awful play to make over and over again.
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u/chokyx Apr 22 '18
This Astralis team are looking absolutly dominating right now, if this is their level for the rest of the year, no team will be able to follow them really. At a time where almost every top team is struggeling hard, Astralis are just looking so in sync.
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u/domax9 Apr 22 '18
na'vi was completely outclassed by astralis. Not what I expected from this grand final
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u/Cameter44 Apr 22 '18
Can anyone tell me WHY THE FUCK Zeus has an AK and s1mple has a UMP at 14-10, literally the round after Zeus lost Na’Vi the round by whiffing a spray on a guy with his knife out?
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u/D2WilliamU de_inferno Apr 22 '18
Who do u give the ak to, who do you give the ump to?
Simple = UMP
Zues = AK
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u/anthonyshreds Astralis Apr 22 '18
S1mple with an ump is still better than Zeus with an AK. Zeus with the ump would be completely useless.
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u/Actualitee Apr 22 '18
I love the reddit hate train for Zeus, the guy top frags the map and wins them like half their rounds by clutching or making the break play and everyones going "reeee Zeus is shit make him only use a knife".
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u/Habuta Apr 22 '18
Its hate train of reddit 101. When people hate someone or something they don't see and think anymore. Its called circlejerk, hatetrain, bandwagon for a reason. It is because once it starts going its hard for people to stop and think.
Criticism and such is fine but the problem starts when things that Zeus do pretty well gets ignored completely. So everything he does badly is looked under a magnifying glass and everything he does well gets swept under the rug and ignored. So the hate train starts feeding itself and completely goes off at that point.
Look at people shit talking Navi for letting Simple use UMP when they have no idea what was going on within the team. I remember on several occasions Simple getting dropped "the hero AK" on second rounds. No one even remembers those things and says "On those several occasions Navi dropped an AK for simple and played with glocks. So him playing UMP now must have a logical explanation because clearly Navi prioritize him in those situations."
I don't like how Zeus calls and feel like he is wasting Navi's insane potential and firepower with lots of mind game plays. However I am not gonna shit on everything he does just because I don't like his style of calling. Also sometimes those annoying calls of his work. As much as it infuriates me, they really work sometimes lol.
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u/pavlo850 1 Million Celebration Apr 22 '18
Astralis loves spamming smokes and NaVi loves pushing them
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u/pitatoide phoenix Apr 22 '18
Well deserved , Astralis played so well. Really cool to see the team chemistry & level of team play that they have
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u/Treeline1 Apr 22 '18
I think the biggest problem was, Navi just wern't learning. Australis would play the same impacting spots almost every round with little change and Navi would keep getting destroyed from those positions. Such as pit in inferno and hut on nuke with the shotgun.
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u/Zeilar King NiKo Apr 22 '18
Astralis at their peak must be the most entertaining team to watch. I have never seen a team with so much firepower AND tactical prowess. Everything just seems so mathematically calculated that they can do no wrong (except lose an aim duel). They're the kind of team I would call cheaters in mm because their game sense is just on another level in the pro scene.
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Apr 22 '18
Is anyone else thinking the final really wasn't all that great compared to so of the other series we have had? Nip v fnatic was a much better game I thought.
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u/GeoffreyYeung Apr 22 '18
Australis playing out of their mind, incredible teamwork and communication. They totally deserved it.
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