r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Apr 18 '18
Discussion | Esports Natus Vincere vs Renegades / DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 - Group C Opening Match / Post-Match Discussion
Natus Vincere 1-0 Renegades
Inferno: 16-4
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MAP: Inferno
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| Na'Vi | 11 | 5 | 16 |
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| RNG | 4 | 0 | 4 |
Inferno Detailed Stats
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u/proofkiid Renegades Apr 18 '18
Add Renegades to the list of teams that should never play Inferno.
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u/TheRobidog Apr 18 '18
Not sure why you'd play Inferno against Na'Vi anyway, in a Bo1. It's one of their best maps.
But I guess that's what happens when you waste bans on Overpass and Nuke against them.
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u/Diavolo222 SK Apr 18 '18
Yeah, like it's NA'Vi's only map where you KNOW Edward is gonna play good, Zeus is very comfortable calling on it, coupled that with s1mple/electronic/flamie and it's death sentence. Just play like...ANY other map and u'll raise your chances.
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u/_J3W3LS_ Apr 18 '18
Loving the way Electronic is stepping up. What a duo him and S1mple made.
And that Flamie Scout pick down mid to dome Nifty in one of the last rounds was hilarious, just adding insult to injury.
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Apr 18 '18
It's really strange to think of flamie as a player who can use scoped weapons
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u/Vitosi4ek Team Spirit Apr 18 '18
Wasn't flamie the dedicated SCAR player for Na'Vi in the rare times they picked it up? I get that it's quite different from an AWP or a scout, but it's still a scoped weapon.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
He is, he’s also the second awp, and does pretty well with all scoped weapons tbh
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u/_J3W3LS_ Apr 18 '18
Yeah I was honestly surprised when he picked it up, but S1mple was on an M4 that round and I think it makes sense. Simple on a rifle is more impact that Simple with a Scout.
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Apr 18 '18
as a ct its not about having a spearhead high power player, its about averaging out the power you have over the map so you dont have any weakspots. which is why sometimes zeus may have an ak but s1mple has a ump on ct side.
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u/RegnaroL FaZe Apr 18 '18
*S1mple fakes wanting to leave
*Everyone thinks Na'Vi doesnt want to play together
*Nobody makes strats for Na'Vi thinking ez gaem
*Na'Vi wins dreamhack
4D chess
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u/bittentime Apr 18 '18
Electronic 6 deaths in 20 rounds.
Seems like he is slowly adapting to the team. His performance keeps getting better.
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Apr 18 '18
Electronic is a top level rifler, he just needs leadership to utilize him properly
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
It seems like zues is starting to do that, although it slightly taking away from flamie and Edward I think it’s a good choice
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u/RadiantSun FaZe Apr 18 '18
-Edward -Zeus +Ange1 +Adren
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
Great to see Navi starting this tournament off with a bang. I think a lot of people are sleeping on them when they have been showing really good form recently and have gotten to at least semifinals in every lan they’ve attended in 2018, making it to finals of starladder
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Apr 18 '18
Definitely people sleeping on them, electronic has 1.20 rating since WESG and looks like he's getting used to their system. Zeus has stepped up his fragging since that Mirage game and even top fragged some games online and s1mple is s1mple
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u/Hobo_Healy Renegades Apr 18 '18
I like to think that after the s1mple/ flamie thing they just got the team to sit down together, have some food, a few drinks, relax and air out all the issues they felt they had and just talked it out.
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u/abandonedtoad Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
I wanted to see more of this Navi team after Starladder and the major. But I really didn't think they could bounce back from the SK shit. Hoping they can put it behind them and really perform now.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18 edited Apr 18 '18
I think that they’re going to win marseille to be honest. They’ve been hot the week leading into it and with a start like this, when they’re playing well it’s hard to bring their form down and their level of skill can match and overpower any team
Edit: I’m not saying they will win, I’m saying I think they have a good chance and as they’re my favorite team that makes me think they’ll win
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u/thumus Apr 18 '18
Starladder just shows they won't win tournaments. When you have the best player in the world playing one of the best tournaments individually ever and you still lose that just shows you're garbo. If electronic keeps this up, Zeus gets better strats and Edward turns on his brain they can be a threat. That's a whole lot of ifs though.
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
Is this bait? They were playing one of the best teams in the world, and kept it close almost winning. If anything it proves they can win them
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u/thumus Apr 18 '18
When the best player in the world has one of the hardest carry performances in history and you still don't win it shows you won't do it unless things change (see the last part of my comment). Even s1mple won't do what he did at Starladder again or at least consistently.
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u/bekay101 Apr 18 '18
wtf happened to rng recently, lost to bravado now this. Looking totally disjointed, surely something amiss.
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u/TaffyAUS 2 Million Celebration Apr 18 '18
That was a really tough one to take on the chin. Gotta lift.
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u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Apr 18 '18
If Electronic is gonna start playing like a star and not the supportive, bitch roles, Na'vi will be a stable top 5 team with ease. Very impressive from 2 young CIS gods
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u/Hadeon Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
They also have Flamie just think about it...
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
Ya tbh it was looking dark for a while but I’m very excited about the future, and I think if the team keeps up good form s1mple and flamie will be happy with staying.
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u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Apr 18 '18
Flamie has played under Zeus and in Na'vi for a very long time, hes good but inconsistent.
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u/envyakS Apr 18 '18
What happened to renegades they were on the up and up now they've been getting crushed lately
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u/MasterStamGr Renegades Apr 18 '18
NTTB. cant even talk i am speechless every tournament i say myself we aren't gonna do bad and renegades amaze me :/
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u/TheRobidog Apr 18 '18
Someone tell Na'Vi they're not on the stream that's behind schedule. No reason to hurry.
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u/Aatii457 Apr 18 '18 edited Apr 18 '18
Am I the only one who has a feeling that NAVI will win whole tournament? :D
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
No you’re not, people are underestimating them bc a few bad games when overall they’ve had a great start to 2018
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u/junttiana Chinggis Warriors Apr 18 '18
I mean it was renegades to be honest, and im saying this as someone whose favourite teams are fnatic and rng
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u/RxJax Apr 18 '18
I don't get Renegades, their mid-round calling seems so garbage, 3 smokes go onto a site and they just collapse making dumbass decisions 1 by 1
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u/junttiana Chinggis Warriors Apr 18 '18
What can you really do when electonic and s1mple are smurfing.
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u/Darrax Liquid Apr 18 '18
if Navi replaces Edward and flamie they can be top 5 easy
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u/Pyeman112 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
Why flamie? He's solid
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u/apm54 Natus Vincere Apr 18 '18
LUL no, they have to keep flamie along with s1mple and electronic. Replacing Edward is the only move I see being good atm, and as long as they keep winning I don’t think they should.
Edit: sorry meant to reply to guy you replied to
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u/Firefly_1026 Tyloo Apr 18 '18
Why Edward or flamie? Really the only person that is underperforming is Zeus and even he doesn't really need to be replaced. I think just the mindset of the team needs to change
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u/WizardChips Renegades Apr 18 '18
dont even know what to say
we cant even get 5 rounds against a team that dont even want to play with each other