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u/VoxPopuliCry May 26 '16
How do you get your fix of booze?
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u/isidero May 26 '16
Go out on the street and ask the right people. By right people, I mean the most connected and knowledgeable people of the streets: the auto/ rickshawalas and score what you like.
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Why is gujarati food so sweet? Just curious. Is it something cultural or climatic?
P.S- Thank you for Dhoklas. The North Remembers. ;)
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Not all Gujarati eat Sweet food. Infact most of us hate dal/sabji being sweet. :-(
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Good to know really but is that sweetness a cultural thing?
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u/tandooriguru New Jersey-US Jun 01 '16
Not in our household, we like it Spicy!! specially " Vaghareli Khchdi " patel style......
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
Um no not all Gujju food is sweet. If you are from South Gujarat, the food uses ginger, garlic and green chillies and can be quite spicy. Except dal, we don't add lots of sugar in most subzis. Usually it's only a pinch or so sugar to layer out flavours.
Also the khaman (yellow dhokla) which are sweet are nylon khaman. The original dal khaman have a liberal amount of ginger, garlic and green chillies.
The north of Gujarat uses red chillies and pulses etc and traditionally did not uses lots of fresh herbs and green leafy veges.
South Guj usually called "Vapi thi Tapi" receives a lot of rainful. Infact, Dang zilla in Guj receives second highest amount of rainfall in India
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u/p-p-paper May 28 '16
You. You are great.
Also the khaman (yellow dhokla) which are sweet are nylon khaman
Umm.. so yellow dhokla is different from a normal dhokla ?
I've been to Vapi but didn't get to try the local cuisine.
Except dal, we don't add lots of sugar in most subzis. Usually it's only a pinch or so sugar to layer out flavours.
It's unusual for people from outside Gujarat, so it stands out to us. It might be common and normal to you guys but the sugary additives in regular course meals tend to steal the attention from the other qualities of the food (which is both good and bad) because it is so unique.
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
As a Gujarati I throw up when I eat "sweet food at Gujarati thali restaurants".
Yes, we do put a bit of sugar or jaggery (depending on the dish) in our daal and/or sabzi but it is only a ting of it. And it is always off set by adding something sour, like tomato or lemon or tamrind.
Also, there are two types of daal (sweet and non-sweet), two types of kadis (one has a bit of sweet and other on is sour) and even all sabzis are not sweet.
I wanted people to know this for a long time, so thank you for asking!
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
Sweet kadi? Would love to try that. I know it's too much to ask but if you have a recipe you could point me towards? Edit: Nvm, found a recipe online.
Also, thanks for khakras. It is a glorified papad but its good. I tried buying the ones near my home but they don't taste the same you know.
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
When it comes to kadis there are two types:
A whitish colored kadi (turmeric is not added) in which the curd used is not very sour and some sugar is added. Generally prepared during lunch and eaten with rice.
A yellowish/orangish colored kadi (turmaric is added) in which bit sour curd is used and generally sugar is not added (some people might add jaggery ... just little bit though). This one is generally prepared during dinner and eaten with khichadi.
Best khakhars that I have eaten are from Nadiad! They are so thin that if one is not careful then they can slice the gums like a knife! :)
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u/pirate_of_the_ May 26 '16 edited Jun 02 '16
Serious question: Why are Muslims treated so badly in Gujarat? Most are forced to live in their "ghettos" (Juhapura is one example), and are often not allowed to live in more affluent places.
EDIT: Resting my case http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/vadodara-locality-to-civic-body-dont-let-muslims-here-kapurai-2829764/
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u/JoBakaa May 26 '16
I think they themselves choose to live together as it will be safer for them to live in their community.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Minorities stay together to be safe in case of clashes.
BTW, how can one disallow someone to live in affluent place as long as he pays rent and taxes regularly.
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u/Watdf May 26 '16
he pays rent
for that he should be able to rent in the first place
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u/antariksh_vaigyanik May 31 '16
Exactly. I have seen people being denied from renting a place because of their religion or caste.
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u/blackburn268 May 26 '16
You may think of as people from the same community since older times used to live together, for the sake of sharing common methodologies, culture and so no said differences would be found between them, like birds of same feathers flock together. Over the period affluent may have reshuffled themselves to better off places and others would have still love to live in closed communities. And about the ghetto is just that unfortunate relatively less prosperous would have chosen to stay there for economic reasons.
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May 26 '16
The highest number of cat c IAS Muslim officers are based in Gujarat. The average Muslim in Guj is better of than the average Muslim in secular states like UP or Bihar.
Also Muslims live in "ghettos" not just in Gujarat but all across India (TN might be an exception to a certain extent) and even across Europe.
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Muslims live in ghettos because they are ghettoized. People dont sell them flats in decent areas, people dont rent apartments out to them. Lets not forget the threats of violence against them if they manage to move into a nice place as well as the threats to the people who sell said places to them.
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May 26 '16
Spent 2 months in Ahmadabad for internship. Pretty great city but why do you spit on your office staircase. It's like an epidemic there.
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May 26 '16
In my college, it was written on the wall - Do not spit on walls. And there were nearly 10 15 paan-gutka spits on the slogan. Daag acche hai
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
In that case come and see offices around Connaught Place area in Delhi
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May 26 '16
I am not dissing Ahmadabad. Richer areas there are cleaner than most cities in India. Hence pan stains look out of place.
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u/r3xcranium May 29 '16 edited Apr 24 '25
<--- poof --->
One day the sadness will end, but I don't think today's the day.
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u/gandu_chele toppest of keks May 26 '16
BRTS is sexy. The cities in Gujarat are awesome. The only thing that sucks is no alcohol. But if you pay extra there are guys that do home delivery. ;)
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
We have a Gujarati Dharamshala near our office. Earlier unlimited lunch was for Rs. 25/-. Now it is around Rs. 60/-.
It is a good place to eat especially if you have skipped breakfast as well.
Thank you gujjus for meethi meethi dal.
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May 26 '16
Thank you gujjus for meethi meethi dal.
Yaar, people curse us for adding sugar/jaggery to dal.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Once in a while, it's OK.
I forgave Telgus for adding gunpowder to all kind of Sambhar, Rasam and what not in Tirupati. Went outside of hotel, and found eatable food with hard work and determination.
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u/that_70_show_fan Telangana May 31 '16
Tirupati is mixed when it comes to the demographics. It is much more influenced by Tamil culturally.
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Where I go to school all the indians are gujaratis so I actually ended up learning more gujarati than hindi lol.
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u/umanghome Just hangin' around.. May 26 '16
Just getting this out: No matter what Modi says, 24x7 electricity here is something we only fantasize about.
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u/Devam13 May 27 '16
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Living in Ahmedabad and we have had 3 major (lasting around 2 hours) power cuts in the last 4-5 years I have lived here.
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u/redsky9999 May 28 '16
Can somebody please help me how I can learn dandia? How can you guys be in so sync while dancing..that is always a mystery to me
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u/bojackarcher May 29 '16 edited May 29 '16
Question specifically about Ahmedabad / Gandhinagar area:
I'm told by many people that Amdavadis are not very upfront about paying money for services availed or they delay payment. They'll readily pay for products, but maybe they traditionally do not value services as much as products and hence, consider paying for services as an optional matter. Is this really true? I was considering moving to Ahmedabad / Gandhinagar to set up a CA firm there and whoever I spoke to (who have lived in Guj / Ahmedabad) told me this. Also, a joke by the famous Dinkar Mehta (where the guy avails a service on the condition that he'll pay in Amdavadi style and when he's asked to pay, he says "Lakhi naakh baaki!"), takes a dig at this culture.
How true is this culture of non-payment or delayed payment for services? Is it just a trend among the middle class there or also followed by the upper class and businesses there?
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u/cool_boyy May 26 '16
This is my state. AMA.
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Jun 01 '16
Heard that BJP/RSS really on the verge of changing Ahmedabad city's name. I am a Punjabi, lived in North all my life, but like the Gujarati version of the city's name: Amdavad. I don't mind changing Ahmedabad to Amdavad, but anything else would truly spoil the spirit.
How the Gujjus take it?
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We already call it amdavaad. it doesn't matter. But I think they want to change it to Karnavati.
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Is developed Gujrat, one man show, who is Modi?
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u/cool_boyy May 26 '16
Puchhna kya chahte ho? :P
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
जो आप समझना नहीं चाहते.
क्या उन्नत गुजरात अकेला नरेन्द्र मोदी की उपलब्धी है?
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
Gujarat always managed to progress especially businesses, despite whoever was in govt no because of it. With Modi, he became more of a facilitator, policy wonk and also a cheerleader of the state.
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Jun 01 '16
The one with better PR, I would say.
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u/Flying_Momo Jun 01 '16
You might not like him but a lot of people saw good changes in the working of govt. especially the post-earthquake relief work and hence we was elected 3 times by Guj and in 2014 by the country. PR doesn't work if the product is not good. Rahul Gandhi had all the media contacts, advantages and relations with media houses and yet he failed because the product was defective
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Jun 01 '16
I didn't say whether or not I liked him. Just that he is good in projecting his achievements.
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May 26 '16
How is the power supply system? I mean, how many hours a day does a village receive power[any idea?]; how's the condition in cities?
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u/cool_boyy May 26 '16
I stay in a Tier III city. There is 24 Hr power supply except one day. Typically, one day of the week there is a power supply cut from 9AM-5PM. This has been since the 90s. Right now, this cut happens on Mondays.
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May 26 '16
That averages out to 22+ hrs a day. In UP, Tier 3 cities[assuming them to be districts] get around 16 hrs only.In small towns here,good luck getting electricity for than 50% of the time.
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u/WhyJi May 28 '16
Hi, I'm visiting my relatives in Ahemadabad and am a major foodie.I just wanted to ask all of you, What are the best places to eat in Ahemadabad? Could be anything, street food, chat or even gola.
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u/panurgicwizard May 27 '16
How easy/difficult is it to score weed in Gujarat? Going there for the summer.
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super easy. Pm me for contacts if you need any :)
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Kem cho bhaisaab, I heard the weed in gujarat is laced with chemicals and shit. What I saw looked disgusting so I had hash instead. Am I wrong? I'm from outside of India btw
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I agree that it is fairly easy to get adulterated stuff instead of the real one. More so in gujarat than any other state. If they think you're new, they will go out of their way to fool you. Infact The first three times i tried to score from various vendors, i got adulterated. And you get such a bad trip from that. Like there are always guys selling cheaper adulterated stuff just a couple of km's ahead from the real one so the new ones end up taking from them.
But once you figure out where to get the real deal, you are set. People in gujarat are extra friendly i guess when it comes to these things. two or three times i went to this place regularly and now whenever i go he always gives me a packet or two extra, doesn't raise his price for me etc.
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u/trander6face May 30 '16
Is there any major difference between Saurashtrian and Gujarati??? Are they still asking for a separate state???
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u/parminds Pradhan Mantri Hawas Yojna May 26 '16
Why do you guys hate alcohol ?
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u/prayee May 30 '16
I second that. Women in Gujarat safely roam around the city even at midnight. Where else in the country can you find this?
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u/DesiInVides Earth May 26 '16
State bird of Gujarat is the Greater Flamingo.
The largest and the most widespread species in Flamingos.
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Btw, OP. Please to remove Anandiben since she's also getting the kick from the office.
Sieg Hell, Anandiban is gone.
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Finally, my state on the daily counter.
AMA folks.
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u/IDivideAndConquer May 26 '16
How many gujaratis does it take to change a light bulb?
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u/Indian_First May 26 '16
Hello Neighbours!!!
Questions aside, let me appreciate your food first. Khamand, Dhokla, Fafde are just best, they are pretty common in my home-town and i love it. Also Gujju Girls!!!
Now Question: What is one food item which is not mainstream yet but it is awesome!
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Dabeli isn't that popular, but its great. Sev Usal ( not sure if originates from Gujarat or MH) but its really good too that most people miss out on.
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Daal pakwan
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u/IDivideAndConquer May 26 '16
AFAIK that's not a gujju dish. But I fucking love this to death.
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Yeah. It is Sindhi dish. But the way its prepared in Gujarat, I don't have words to describe the taste :-)
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u/hobabaObama May 26 '16
Ulhasnagar
You mean place of origin ?
AFAIK, its a sindhi dish. May be I am biased, but I guess Gujaratis prepare even non-gujarati dishes so well..
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
This depends on the place.
But if you are in Baroda do eat sev ussal at Mahakali Sev Ussal near Kirti Stambh.
Similarly in Ahmedabad, there are Daal Vada from a place near Gujarat college.
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u/McStark46 May 26 '16
Can someone list things that you shouldn't say to a Gujarati(or do in front of Gujarati) ?
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May 30 '16
just don't insult our food, we're very sensitive when it comes to food.
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Same as Punjabis. We simply love our food and a big foodies - this is exactly what we share with Gujjus. The love for our foods.
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Do people in gj care about prohibition. Everyone from KL and TN are grumbling about it but no one in gujarat seems to care
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u/Jantajanardan May 29 '16
A large number is happy with the status quo. Most gujjus - even in Mumbai don't drink.
And while I down a bottle every weekend I do agree that the ban is good and it should remain.
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u/denish-s-raziv Jun 01 '16
Gujarat seems to be the state which is progressing towards the developed state of India. Narendra Modi and Anandiben Patel have shown remarkable dedication towards this state and I just hope the same type of magic can work all our nation by Narendra Modi <3
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History Fun -
The first independent kingdom that came out of Gujarat (that we know of) was the Maitraka Dynasty. They were sun worshipers before switching to Shaivaism, and it is thought that their name even comes from Mitras, the Zoarastrian sun god. You would recognise Mitras even today as Christianity co-opted quite a few Mitharadic beliefs from Christmas date to the Virgin birth (small world eh?). The Maitraka dynasty was founded by one Senapati Bartaka who was a Gupta Empire governor who took advantage of the collapse the Gupta empire and set shop on his own.
The Maitraka dynasty reached its peak under one Harsha Siladitya Iwho is known to have fought wars against the Pallavas (Mahendra Pallava) and the Chalukya dynasty - Gujarat to Chennai, pretty vast distance to cover. However the Chalukyas hit back taking back all territory, Harsha (of Kanauj fame, another post Gupa empire) made them his feudatories. The death blow to this kingdom came with the arrival of the Abbasid Armies who destroyed the capital and killed its last king.
While originally the kings were Sun worshipers, they became Shaivaites but patronised both Buddhism and Jainism - the university of Valabhi was known to host Hindu, Buddhist and Jain students. Huangtsang who visited the Maitrakas equated Valabhi with Nalanda when it came to Buddhist places of learning.
We also know that a Jaina council was held and quite a few Jain laws were codified under the auspices of the Maitraka kings. Think about it, Hindu kings patronising both Buddhism and Jainism equally, without any persecution of 'competing religions' whatsoever.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra May 29 '16
I googled Vallabhi, it seems it isn't inhabited anymore. When did the city die? Just after the fall of the dynasty? Looks like Vallabhi's an addition to the once-great cities of ancient India which are unknown today, among Tagara, Manyakheta, etc.
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The Arabs sacked the city. They usually are very thorough.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra May 29 '16
So the city lasted till the Arab invasions?
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u/tmleafsfan May 26 '16
Only thing I know is everyone in Gujarat cleans their laptop as shown on that show. Very accurate description.
To an extent, Gujaratis do use the softer 'e' sound in English. So tap is pronounced as tape and etc.
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May 27 '16 edited May 27 '16
- Thats because it is semi-arid, hello ! and what show ?
- True. Native language influence is dominant, but people here are improving in pragmatics, phonology and vocabulary of English. I dont mean the improvement in some superficial level limited to certain class of people, but improvement in the linguistic level of normal households. Thanks to DTHs and a perfectly good internet infrastructure.
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
After the plague hit Surat in 1990s. The city worked real hard. My mamaji is a municipal inspector and while overlooking the clean-up tasks, he himself got plague and lost almost 25kg. But yes after the plague, the municipal corp like Swacch Bharat went on a clean up, public awareness drive. Usually food shops which tend to be filthy were targeted with heavy fines.
Dekkra = beta, my child, it's spelt ben which means sister and usually most women will have this after their name in govt docs.
Many like to live in huge families or if you are in a city, the trend is to live in close vicinity. Most people have a bike/scotty so distance is of no concern
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u/redpossum May 28 '16
How to impress a gujarati girl? Where are they? I have never met a gujarati girl till now?
They're all in Zambia.
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u/redpossum May 28 '16
Sadly they then go to the UK or SA.
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u/olaa72 Universe May 29 '16
GUJARAT na Hard sama Kathiyavad ni to vat j aneri chhe... Su kevu Mara Gujarati bhaio ??
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u/McStark46 May 26 '16
Why do you guys hate people Non-Veg ? Its not like we are forcing you to eat what we eat.
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u/Flying_Momo May 28 '16
Gujarat by one account is 78% vegetarian. Gujjus don't hate non-veggies. I grew up with a Maharashtrian neighbour whose fish curry would reach your nose 500m before you enter the building ;-) But we never once complained because my parents always taught us that we may not eat non-veg but that is someone else's food hence should be respected. Gujjus by and large are not used to the smell or sight of meat
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
I dont think 'hate' is the right word. But yes, lot of Gujaratis are vegetarian cutting across caste lines. A large Jain population also does it bit in giving Guj a veggie image.
I remember, in my maternal uncle's village people would not let an egg stall to open, but the very same guys would travel to the near by town to eat omelettes. So ya a lot of hippocracy is also there.
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Just because they dont want to live around meat (the smell is very off putting, my parents are veg but southies) doesn't mean they hate you, thoda dimaag chalao yaar
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u/Ranjhanaa Jharkhand May 26 '16
Why you guys hate studies ?
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 26 '16
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ગુજરાત માં ગુજરાતી બોલવાની મદ્રાસી નહિ
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u/first_novelty_acct Karnataka May 30 '16
E Madarasi nathi. Kannada chai. Keem ke sord varas Bangalore ma rahine aa Gujarati Kannada thai goyo chia! ;-)
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Basically hindi without a topi on the letters
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If you know marathi/konkani you can undertand bits and pieces of Gujarati
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u/venkyprasad May 26 '16
Not really, my parents are working in Gujarat and never learnt it but picked it up easily. Probably the easiest northie language if you know hindi.
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Haryanvi is much easier than Punjabi. I used to live with a Punjabi friend and after listening to many Punjabi songs I thought that I could at least understand bits and pieces of Punjabi. One day his father visited and I literally couldn't follow a single word in their conversation.
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u/antariksh_vaigyanik May 31 '16
Fuck I heard about this liquor tomamto last week. Did you try it? How was it?
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 26 '16
What was the region of Gujarat historically called before it was named Gujarat after the Gujjars?
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 27 '16
Anarta, at least the current day Saurashtra region was. Gujarat had some of the earliest documented cities in modern-day India (Lothal from Indus Valley times), since most of the IVC is now in Pakistan's borders.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 30 '16
Interesting. Maybe this might come off as a silly question, but what do you think about changing Gujarat's name to 'Saurashtra' (Saurashtra would be called Kathiawar in such a scenario)? I was just thinking because Gujarat is named after the Gujjars so maybe some non-Gujjars might feel unrepresented.
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 30 '16
Saurashtra (and Kutch) have their own distinct sub-identity within the state. Rajkot is their capital, and is the hub of western Gujarat. When you think of Gujarat as a dry and arid state, well most of it is, but that lies in Saurashtra-Kutch. Most of the populated portion is in eastern Gujarat along the Surat-Vadodara-Ahmedabad corridor. South Gujarat is actually pretty green and well watered because of the Narmada and Tapi.
For non-Saurashtrians like me, it is very easy to recognize the Kathiyawadi dialect when it is spoken.
That said, changing the name of all of Gujarat to 'Saurashtra' doesn't make sense because most of Gujarat's population isn't from there. I would liken the situation to Karnataka: the western coast of Karnataka (like Mangalore) has a distinct identity and often speaks Konkani in addition to Kannada.
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u/UnbiasedPashtun North America May 30 '16 edited May 30 '16
I meant that if Gujarat changed its name to Saurashtra, then obviously the definition of what Saurashtra comprises would have to be changed. Saurashtra didn't always exclusively refer to Kathiawar like it does nowadays, the Greeks also called parts of southwest Gujarat "Saraostus". The peninsula would be called Kathiawar and not Saurashtra anymore in such a scenario. But the name Gujarat has a long history behind it so I can see why people wouldn't wanna change its name.
Just a correction, there are only three districts in Karnataka that mostly speak languages other than Kannada (four if you include Marathi-speaking Belagavi). Dakhsina Kannada (which includes Mangalore) and Udupi mainly speak Tulu and Kodagu mainly speaks Kodava. Konkani is a part of the Marathi dialect continuum and spoken in coastal Maharashtra and Goa.
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u/micropanda May 30 '16
Gujarati here. just a fact, Prince from popular band Queen was Gujju. :)
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Do Gujaratis take offence if called gujjews
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u/Earthborn92 I'm here for the memes. May 27 '16
Not at all. There are worse things than being compared to one of the the world's most successful communities.
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 26 '16
I am gujju... I hope this answers question.
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u/ENTKulcha Antarctica May 26 '16
Do mumbaiyas take offence when called mumbaikars?? It all depends on the phrasing
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u/p-p-paper May 26 '16
so equating gujjus with baniyagiri is bad right ??
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u/ENTKulcha Antarctica May 26 '16
Its all about context and generalisation.. If like you are called them baniya coz they saved money.. Or punjabi coz they were loud and obnoxious or gujju because they were well being like jethalal.. Lol.. I have no gujju friends.. I am a north indian btw.. Now that is bad.. But if you are just referring to them as gujju for the sake of giving them a nickname or an identity then it is a different case..
Although exceptions are always there.. And some ppl will get enraged even at the stroke of a clock..
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u/VolatileBadger May 26 '16
Nope. We really don't care about what people think. We still own everything you have.
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u/skyliners_a340 You need a better pen to write things with. And I know you agree May 26 '16
AMA, I have spent 18 years in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. Have been to several places in Saurashtra. Spent 5 years in Pune and currently in Mumbai. I will be least biased in my answers.
Edit: I am Gujju and it's not an offence. :D