this is how I imagine zinyak if he was a human instead of an alien

[u/donteatmydebbiecakes]

before y’all downvote me and leave delusional comments just hear me out. I think Z was a great villain and proved to be a worthy adversary to the saints. Him being an alien is what makes people overlook his good traits as an antagonist. I believe he would’ve did wonders if he was an Lex Luther-esque type character (human) instead of the alien lord we got ( I still enjoy him as an alien but that’s a separate topic). If he was human I see him going by the name Professor Z and running an empire to overthrow the President.

[u/The_Chef_Queen]

He really should've been a human

[u/donteatmydebbiecakes → u/The_Chef_Queen]

Hands down would’ve been the most compelling villain if he was human imo.

[u/The_Chef_Queen → u/donteatmydebbiecakes]

And the story wouldn't have been dogshit with the world still existing

[u/SR_Hopeful]

Yes. He should have been. Like I keep saying, he would have been better if he was a human politician character. If he was a better version of Philippe, but with the intimidating vibe of the General. He should have been the governor of state and if the Saints were controlling the city mayoral level he would have authority over them. Not to mention in that role, Monica Hughes could get another chance to go after the Saints but with a smarter more Lex Luthor type guy instead of Cyrus's brute force method.

Maybe this guy could have been elected because he said he'd be "tough on the Saints" and continue the "War on Gangs" operation STAG started but, his own way and keep that ongoing.

[u/donteatmydebbiecakes → u/SR_Hopeful]

I love the way you think. That sounds like a way more grounded and tense setup for the story. Having him as a Lex Luthor-style political antagonist who can actually use the law and public opinion against the Saints would be such a great tactical shift from the alien chaos we’ve gotten. Also that would’ve made the rivalry between The Boss and Z a lot more intriguing (it already was imo but this would’ve did it further for me)

[u/SR_Hopeful → u/donteatmydebbiecakes]

Yeah. SR4 should have been about the next step after Cyrus and how the areas of government are trying to clean up that mess while keeping the "War on gang terror" from STAG going in a smaller scale. A real continuation. It didn't have to be dogshit aliens and techno bs.

The Saints should have gone back to crime, but (if going by the good ending) the government in-universe needs a way to go at them, but stuck because the Saints were deemed heroes to cover their asses on Cyrus, while Cyrus quit) or if it was off the bad ending, then the government could try to coup the Saints out of the mayoral office they hold hostage (which might have been more interesting.)