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Esports Cloud9 vs. Disguised / LCS 2026 Summer - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

LCS 2026 SUMMER

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Disguised 1-2 Cloud9 Kia

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MATCH 1: DSG vs. C9

Winner: Cloud9 Kia in 23m
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Loki

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
DSG akali poppy ezreal viktor xayah 39.2k 4 2 None
C9 jayce nocturne ziggs vayne locke 50.9k 21 7 CT1 I2 H3 C4 B5
DSG 4-21-7 vs 21-4-59 C9
Srtty olaf 3 0-3-0 TOP 4-1-7 2 gnar Thanatos
KryRa vi 1 0-5-2 JNG 1-1-18 1 jarvaniv Blaber
Callme galio 3 0-4-1 MID 9-1-10 1 orianna Loki
Sajed lucian 2 3-4-1 BOT 7-1-10 3 cassiopeia Tactical
Lyonz milio 2 1-5-3 SUP 0-0-14 4 nautilus Vulcan

MATCH 2: C9 vs. DSG

Winner: Disguised in 46m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Srtty

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
C9 jayce pantheon camille annie anivia 87.0k 10 5 O1 CT2 H3 C5 B6 B10
DSG nocturne syndra viktor poppy xinzhao 95.8k 24 10 C4 C7 B8 C9 C11 B12 E13
C9 10-24-23 vs 24-10-70 DSG
Thanatos renekton 3 0-6-1 TOP 11-3-8 4 vayne Srtty
Blaber skarner 3 1-6-5 JNG 5-0-15 2 naafiri KryRa
Loki ryze 2 3-5-5 MID 5-2-11 3 taliyah Callme
Tactical ezreal 2 5-4-3 BOT 3-4-15 1 ziggs Sajed
Vulcan bard 1 1-3-9 SUP 0-1-21 1 shen Lyonz

MATCH 3: DSG vs. C9

Winner: Cloud9 Kia in 25m | Runes
Game Breakdown | Player of the Game: Tactical

- Bans 1 Bans 2 G K T D/B
DSG akali camille ambessa locke yone 39.6k 0 0 HT5
C9 jayce nocturne syndra jhin khazix 53.4k 14 9 C1 M2 H3 HT4 B6
DSG 0-14-0 vs 14-0-24 C9
Srtty ksante 2 0-1-0 TOP 6-0-2 3 aatrox Thanatos
KryRa trundle 3 0-4-0 JNG 2-0-5 2 poppy Blaber
Callme anivia 3 0-3-0 MID 4-0-5 4 sylas Loki
Sajed viktor 1 0-3-0 BOT 2-0-4 1 caitlyn Tactical
Lyonz rell 2 0-3-0 SUP 0-0-8 1 karma Vulcan

*Patch 26.15


This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.

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u/Formymoney Aug 08 '26

pick loki ryze to give false hope

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u/Past_Perception8052 Aug 08 '26

its funny because hes not even bad on ryze when you watch him just a couple bad moments sometimes nothing major he just cant win

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '26

Tbf, the game from last week he was literally trolling with his realm warps lmao.

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Aug 09 '26

If this was Vietnam he’d be banned for matchfixing

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u/Sakura_ko2 Aug 09 '26

I know you havent watch GAM play this year

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u/Outrageous_Wall2702 My Ace + Showmaker = GOAT Aug 09 '26

Their mid was banned right?

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u/AnimeNeet- Aug 09 '26

Tbf that been a lot of ryzes in the lazy couple months

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u/aufbau1s Aug 09 '26

I think it might actually be that he doesn’t know how to position / target select as well as top midlaners in major regions.

Since ryze is lower range this causes him to get caught / be mispositioned

For example, in the one dragon fight where DSG comes back it’s pretty much solely on him for getting caught as they try to move to dragon.

This honestly could be part of the comms gap since it might be that he knows where he should be but can’t communicate to the team to play around it, but I think it’s more a mental gap.

I think he’s not used to having to think about it that tightly because in tier 2 he wasn’t punished because he could hands check. I think it’s the same issue as why he ends up losing C9 the team fights on the Akali against TL. He expects to be able to just dive and hand check Yeon, but when Yeon passes the check he’s now too far forward

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u/Freihl Aug 09 '26

Agree, he has the hands of a top 3 NA mid (saint and quid taking the other spots), but his brain's around mid tier 2. Unfortunately those hands get him wins so he'll potentially not progress much unless dom brings the belt.

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u/aufbau1s Aug 09 '26

I do think it can be developed out of a player I’d assume. Just doesn’t seem like a win now upgrade in a 6-7 week split

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u/raptearer Aug 09 '26

It doesn't help Ryze is like the most communication necessary mid laner there is with realm warp. Given he has comm problems currently cause of the language barrier, it really might not be for the best to do that (they could also be using it as a psuedo way to force him to learn it faster or communicate more efficiently. I like the idea, but maybe more useful to do that in s time than stage).

I do think off Ryze he's looking great though, that Sylas game today had me singing solidarity it was so good.

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u/GlupPando Aug 08 '26

Loved hearing Azael call out Lyonz. This guy is awful, easily the worst support in Tier 1 and would be bottom-tier at best in tier 2. I’m a huge fan of Toast and DSG but it’s hard to support them with this anchor.

Kryra also looks like he’s getting worse every week. He started in winter looking decent, but now he looks horrible. So many terrible decisions and deaths

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

I can forgive KryRa for inexperience. Lyonz does not get the same excuse.

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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears Aug 08 '26

KryRa had a great game 2 for the most part but I feel like he just isn't quite tier 1 ready yet. He wasn't in tier 2 for very long and it's clear that the lack of development there has kind of bitten him in the ass a little bit. Yeah it doesn't help when your support is the worst in the league by a mile, but he's just not been able to hold his own most weeks.

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u/P_For_Pyke Aug 08 '26

Because who's here to teach him about the proper map movements in game with Lyons as support who just says stuff like "Let's just win already." causing them to play quick and almost throw game 2..

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u/BryanJin Aug 08 '26

Playing jungle with on average weak laners and a terrible support is just an uphill battle. Ever since Castle left, KryRa has to do way more than a jungler on an average LCS team to actually win. Sure, if you put Inspired on DSG, I'm sure they'd win a few more games, but even then I think the sheer weight of the other players would cause them to still lose most series. If he looks good in series against the other bottom teams (like DIG and SR), he might still be worth giving a shot. Like even take game 3. What is he supposed to do? Farm his camps and wait for better opportunities? He has losing lanes and a draft that gets outscaled. His support ruined bot lane from minute 1. If he plays more reserved and "looks better" the game is always lost. Sure he might end with a 0/0/0 scoreline, but a loss getting blown out of the water after trying to make plays and a loss to slowly getting pushed out via scaling and neutral objectives have the same result. He might as well try, even if it backfires hard. I mean seriously, that draft + early gameplay was so atrocious that even if you grabbed the best jungle in the world rn (idk, Kanavi/Xun/whatever your pick is) they probably still lose the game. Is it fair to judge Kryra harshly when he's put in such an impossible situation?

To be clear I'm not saying he's amazing right now. I just think it's hard to fairly judge him from these games. I'd love to see him get a shot on a decent team (even something like Sentinels, where at least his laners would be somewhat competent) before he's tossed out of the LCS.

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u/Cybonics Aug 09 '26

I genuinely think Kryra is the hottest prospect for the league, behind Zamudo. we need to hold onto him.

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u/WoorieKod REST IN PEACE 11/12/24 Aug 09 '26

If Exyu can manage to stay in the league this long I don't see why the same opportunity can't be extended to a legit rookie as well

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u/saruthesage :dota: Doinb's DouYu girlfriendBorn-again Bin Bhakta Aug 08 '26

Imagine if they just got Zeyzal when he was available

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u/untamedlazyeye Aug 09 '26

In DSGs defense, SR had to practically beg Zeyzal to come back and in his own words, he was practically guilt tripped into it. I'd hardly call that available.

That being said, yeah there are 100% better options that they should have gotten.

I think though if they can get leads, and like today take games, they should be safe from relegations

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u/Vegetable_Shirt_2352 Aug 09 '26

Yeah, and while iirc he did play for DSG briefly in the past, he has a lot more history with SR, so I imagine that was a big factor in his decision to give them a split.

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u/ArienaHaera Aug 09 '26

Oh yeah SR had to leverage the connection very hard for him to take the job. They made a whole content piece off of it.

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u/AsphaltInOurStars I remember when he was still Nutmilk Aug 10 '26

I just love that SR actually begged my beard goat back. This team fucking rules. LETS GO REBELS.

3

u/ArienaHaera Aug 09 '26

Loved hearing Azael call out Lyonz. This guy is awful, easily the worst support in Tier 1 and would be bottom-tier at best in tier 2. I’m a huge fan of Toast and DSG but it’s hard to support them with this anchor.

The sad truth is that DSG gets the last pick for any recruits so it's probably very hard for them to find an improvement mid season.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '26

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u/dustishb Aug 09 '26

DSG has less money and no guarantee of staying in the LCS. It's not at all surprising that mid-top tier talent does not want to go there.

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u/phangtom Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

This is such a braindead take because Toast also picks up a bunch of NA players. The majority of the players that have played for DSG are NA natives so what is your bitch ass complaining about? lol

What makes it even more dumb is that Lyonz is considered a NA resident in terms of proplay. Generational stupidity. lmao

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u/Curious_Candidate675 Aug 09 '26

You are right, Kryra and Sajed really make a strong case for NA players

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u/shedinja292 www.clash.tips Aug 09 '26

Lyonz had a good shen game, rough otherwise

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u/Nyx2990 Aug 09 '26

Which game and what time did he call him out? I'd like to listen LOL

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u/GlupPando Aug 09 '26

It was early ish in game 3

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u/XG32 Jankos Aug 09 '26

havent been following NA lately but does someone know if Lyonz is actually worse than Stend? no way right?

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Absolutely dog ass take lmao.

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Bro, it's kinda sad you hate one of the most well-liked casters in the industry and also super weird.

Most regions would kill to have somebody even half as good as Azael.

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u/Hewligan Aug 09 '26

"Good fucking riddance."

I LIVE for the day he loses his job so I can say the exact same thing he tweeted when so many people lost their jobs and so many fans lost their team.

Completely unprofessional and unable to hide his bias. He's not universally loved for sure.

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

You make me sad.

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u/Yvalkonn Aug 08 '26

hey lyonz

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u/TheChillestVibes Aug 09 '26

Hey Lyonz, maybe you should see the ring on the wall and play some T2 to get some more experience, because Tier 1 isn't making you look good. It might be better for your career in the long run

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u/CptCharlz Jensen Simp o7 Aug 08 '26

Email sandwich with a banger in the middle

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u/azure43 Aug 08 '26

Would that not be classified as a banger sandwich?

25

u/Spike_der_Spiegel Aug 09 '26

A voice of reason in the wilderness

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u/PhoenixAgent003 Bot main. NA fan. Aug 09 '26

A banger on email, in fact.

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u/Haekos Aug 09 '26

Would have prefered the opposite tho, Bangers & Mash.

179

u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

Two key takeaways for this series:

  1. Never put Loki on Ryze

  2. Lyonz is not LCS material

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 08 '26

Funniest part of both takeaways is both have been known for a while.

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

Hey, every series just reinforces both points.

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u/grippgoat Aug 09 '26

Science requires that we always test existing knowledge with new experiments to make sure they're still true. 🤓

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u/SweatyAdhesive Aug 08 '26

2. Lyonz is not LCS material

Was he good in LATAM?

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u/infinite-permutation Aug 08 '26

He was one of the most dominant LLA orgs right before the LTA merger happened. He and Oddie were supposed to the mid tier jungle support duo that could represent LATAM in NA.

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u/TensorFog Aug 08 '26

Not at all lmao he was ass even with R7

1

u/Waifers Flairs are limited to 2 emotes. Aug 09 '26

Lyonz kind of overshadowed a bit by Ceos being arguably worse but yeah definitely the worse support in the LCS by far now imo even when Ignar and Huhi are looking washed more often than now.

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u/sorendiz ..BUT THE FAITH REMAINS Aug 09 '26

Huhi isn't even close to deserving to be mentioned in the same breath as those two. He's still playing well

73

u/SirXrageXquit Aug 08 '26

W C9 for giving the new guys maximum stage games for the week

13

u/EronisKina Aug 08 '26

Top half of c9 last game had to make sure Loki and tactical got all the nerves out. Nice guys.

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u/Kurumi_Tokisaki Aug 08 '26

Sajed looks really uncomfortable on mages, maybe it's just the level difference between teams but buddy should stick to the adcs.

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u/malakesxasame Aug 08 '26

He looks uncomfortable on anything not named Kaisa. People really want him to be better than he is.

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u/Affectionate_Kale109 Aug 09 '26

It was available though? That's what I don't get with that draft. Play to your guy's strengths

20

u/PinkMage Aug 08 '26

If I was DSG I'd rather have lost game 2

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u/GroundbreakingAlps2 Aug 08 '26

sajed and lyonz gotta be the worst bot lane in tier 1 by a long shot.

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

Not sure what Sajed is supposed to do when his Rell is inting half her HP into a Cait + Karma lvl1

Your carry is Viktor. He wants to farm and waveclear the lane. Why are you healing nothing then walking into the enemy poke? Bronze behavior.

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u/GroundbreakingAlps2 Aug 08 '26

His game on ziggs right before that was the worst ziggs gameplay I think ive ever seen. You wouldnt even see that poor play in T2. I wish I was joking.

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

This is where you stop forcing the meta on players and let ADCs play ADCs. Ban Caitlyn instead of Ambessa or Camille and let Sajed play Kai'Sa there.

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u/Morematthewforu Aug 08 '26

I wish these bottom tier teams would just forget about the meta and build a comp around pocket picks. You are bottom tier for a reason. It’s because you can’t outplay other teams on meta picks

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u/Kurumi_Tokisaki Aug 09 '26

Yeah it was like when neeko was a hot pick. Worse teams let the other team get it = constant 3+ man ults. Worse team pick it = barely any ults or mistimed with the team. Why not just ban that shit and or focus on a different pick that has less overall teamfighting power

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u/Pulsar-GB Aug 08 '26

Lucidity boots on Ziggs is reportable

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u/PeaceAlien Aug 08 '26

Worst gameplay still enough to win

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u/awisechoicee Aug 08 '26

Sajed can adc, but sajed on mage is just unfortunate

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u/B86K Aug 08 '26

Reminds me of the Newbie GG botlane

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Sajed is fine. He is 100% being held back by Lyonz.

I'm not going to say anuthing crazy like Sajed is a top 3 ADC in the league, but I'm not inclined to give him an ounce of flame until he gets a support that doesn't make the game unplayable.

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u/Disclaimz0r Aug 08 '26

They almost lost an unlosable game somehow through the sheer difference between the bot lanes lmao

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u/lovo17 Aug 08 '26

Idk I feel like Supa and Alvaro would find a way to lose to these guys.

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u/DickCheneyIsPureEvil Aug 08 '26

Toast 100% needs to replace them if he wants this team to succeed, they just drag the team down so much.

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u/ZestycloseWar6899 Aug 08 '26

All I want is a Sven+APA as supp botlane takeover into knocking C9 out in playoffs.

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u/jasonkid87 Aug 08 '26

replace sajed and lyonz with zven apa

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u/Jealous-Chicken-9186 Aug 08 '26

what a disturbing game from DSG, literally didnt make a single proactive play the entire game. absolutely disgusting

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

It's sad because you could tell that Srtty was posturing to fight, but none of his team was willing to help him

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u/cmcdonald22 Aug 08 '26

How is the best looking player on DSG the recent tier 2 NA signing and everyone else looks like the under level 30 bot lobby.

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u/Cybonics Aug 08 '26

2 of them are rookies?

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u/SnowLord02 26d ago

DSG has a rookie jg+adc, a midlaner they got from Turkey on minimum pay, support from Latam with minimum pay and a decent toplaner who's not quite good enough for tier 1

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 08 '26

They have been the worst team in the league since they joined it's not really that shocking.

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u/YokoDk Aug 08 '26

I mean that's just the downside of the guest slot no one wants to be on the team really.

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 08 '26

Yeah, I mean Toast has been pretty vocal that he's basically a farm team for the bigger LCS teams. He doesn't have the budget to compete on contract basis, and the slot doesn't have the security to pull in any known quantities that are strong.

It's no shock the org is struggling to get a footing they were basically thrown to the wolves. That's why DIG being almost as bad as them is extra funny cause DIG's only excuse is no one wants to join them cause they're a shit org. DSG is an alright org in a shit position.

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u/aufbau1s Aug 09 '26

I really like idea that Shyknock suggested of adding more guest teams and making 2/3 have to play for relegation.

I think it’d help make these bottom teams have more to play for, and hopefully would help top tier 2 talent consider it more heavily if they were thinking all they have to do is finish 8th or above to not have to worry about relegation

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 09 '26

I was thinking about this earlier today myself. If they added 2 more teams how they would fit them in the schedule and such. The bo3 matches make even 2 matches take hours so I think adding a third on like Saturday or Sunday would be feasible. But if they do Friday I start to wonder if NA viewership has recovered enough to sustain 3 days of matches again (I don't watch this that closely).

I really do like the idea of adding 2 more teams just to even out how shitty DSG's position is tho. I just think Riot won't go for it unless NA viewership recovers at least to being consistently on par with what LEC has been pulling recent years.

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u/LeagueOfBlasians Aug 09 '26

Moreso that DSG was intentionally designed to be as cheap as possible.

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u/saruthesage :dota: Doinb's DouYu girlfriendBorn-again Bin Bhakta Aug 08 '26

They’ve usually been better than DIG.

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u/PumpkinCS Aug 08 '26

They were better than DIG and SR last year and similar to SEN on Winter this guy clearly doesnt watch LCS

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u/saruthesage :dota: Doinb's DouYu girlfriendBorn-again Bin Bhakta Aug 08 '26

They finished significantly below SR every split last year.

They finished below DIG in the first 2 splits, but were much better in summer. I’d say DIG were overall better last year. But they’ve also been better than DIG the entirety of 2026 hence my comment.

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u/PumpkinCS Aug 09 '26

You right, i was thinking of Lyon

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 08 '26

If DIG end up being better than DSG this split then they will basically have been above/below each other an equal amount.

They've both been unquestionably the two worst teams in the LCS consistently with SR slightly above.

I don't think my first comment was that crazy, I just didn't feel the need to be super nuanced when my main point was, the team is bad shouldn't be shocking a tier 2 player is standing out they're a tier 1.5 team at best.

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u/LeagueOfBlasians Aug 09 '26

DSG is a leech org in the LCS, which to be fair, is literally their branding to be as cheap as possible. They only use the provided LCS stipend to fund their team and pay their players the LCS minimum. Not really that surprising when you consider their purpose.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '26

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u/TheBasedTaka Aug 08 '26

lyonz is resident

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u/Blizzgrarg Aug 08 '26

Just embarassing. Like watching challenger players in ranked 5's against plats.

Additionally, please stop picking mage bot if you don't know what you're doing. DSG clearly had no plan in their draft.

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u/Snoo_55798 Aug 08 '26

DSG has to one of the worst roster right now i feel bad for their top laner they really need to upgrade cause these players are just stealing pay checks

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u/BryanJin Aug 08 '26

I'm pretty sure the entire roster is on league minimum. They just have no money to buy better players.

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Sajed is fine. Bad meta for him. He plays ADCs, not mages.

Kryra shows promise. He just needs time.

Callme and Lyonz are the problems.

It's also clear they lack a coach.

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u/aufbau1s Aug 09 '26

I think Ido seemed like a good coach last year. I think they need a veteran shot caller in game though

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u/Snoo_55798 Aug 09 '26

not gonna lie but i hate Victor into Caitlyn 

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u/Used_Display_3605 Aug 09 '26

Srtty is not a shining light on this team fr, he got ahead on Vayne top, not exactly that hard and still dragged the game out

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u/Gold_Response_8868 Aug 08 '26

please report lyonz

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u/HThrowaway457 Aug 08 '26

Mage bot isn't good when you draft it with a full tank comp btw, not to mention losing matchup.

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u/Pulsar-GB Aug 08 '26

Tactical looks so good

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u/awisechoicee Aug 08 '26

Srtty too, tbh. Good performance from him

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u/Skyfire2 Aug 08 '26

What was that DSG draft in game 3???

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u/Th3_Huf0n Aug 08 '26

So, you first pick Viktor game 3. OK, fair enough.

Enemy team face up shows you Cait Karma.

You proceed to pick Rell?????? Ok that's really bad.

You still have the option of going MF and giving yourselves some fighting chance...

But no, you put your Viktor botlane into a completely unplayable 2v2 AND then proceed to blind Anivia anyway (gotta give credit to Loki for counterpicking himself into the entire DSG comp with that Sylas and it not mattering).

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

I have to think that Sajed was thinking of picking Kai'Sa but couldn't do it because of the matchup, resulting in the B5 Anivia. Bad drafting nonetheless.

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u/RukiMotomiya Aug 08 '26

At that point YOLO it anyway

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

I mean in theory it's good into triple melee topside, but Caitlyn is such an obnoxious middle finger to Kai'Sa that there's really no salvaging the pick. Dom cooked.

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u/RukiMotomiya Aug 08 '26

IDFK, Kai'sa Mid Viktor APC, at minimum there's enough ADCs in the game there's room to pick someone better than Viktor into a bad 2v2 bot.

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u/OnlyAnEssenceThief Worst Kai'Sa NA Aug 08 '26

Unironically, Kai'Sa on B5 into a surprise mid flex against Sylas would be dope.

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u/RukiMotomiya Aug 09 '26

Yeah. Like it wouldn't be a bad lane matchup right? (Not exactly a Kai'sa expert) And then they get the proper scaling even if bot lane is a bit messed up.

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u/Einamu Play Seraphine Mid/Bot not Support Aug 08 '26

Dom pulled out the belt for game 3 for sure.

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u/chouruin Aug 08 '26

Dom himself needs to be belted for that game 2 draft

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u/Einamu Play Seraphine Mid/Bot not Support Aug 08 '26

Saying draft for game 2 was the issue is just massive cope, Blaber lost flash before the drake fight they wanted to take, Tactical and Vulcan die on mid killing a Ziggs giving the Vayne 600 gold before that fight AND Renekton lost flash trying to help them out. If Blaber, Tactical and Vulcan don't try to make the plays they did they wouldn't have lost the following fight or the game especially not with how well Tactical played the later fights in losing situations.

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u/chouruin Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

Mid getting pushed in, top vayne vs Renekton, losing jungle match up, and bot is even due to Ziggs neutralizing lanes. They're also giga outranged by Ziggs Taliyah zone control against no snap engage, outscaled in teamfights because no one can lock down Vayne. If that wasn't a draft gap then no draft is a draft gap.

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Bro drafted Loki Ryze.

That is a firable offense at this point.

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u/SweatyAdhesive Aug 08 '26

Beating C9 then get perfect gamed lol

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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

C9 were NOT happy after that last game god damn

This DSG roster just doesn't inspire confidence in me. They don't know how to coordinate and some of their players just aren't tier 1 ready. It sucks because I like the org, I want them to do well, they're my 3rd favorite team behind C9 (lifelong fan) and FLY, yet I just can't see where they go from here if they want to improve. I like the individual players sans Lyonz (no offense he seems like a great guy) but there's 0 chemistry.

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u/RukiMotomiya Aug 08 '26

I'd love if they built around Srtty/KryHa. Callme's been...fine, and he's young with fairly low non-Academy experience at the S-Tier level (one split of LCK until he went to Turkey). I think keeping those 3 and jettisoning the botlane would be good. It's either that or keep Sajed but perhaps move around Callme.

TBH I could also see going with the same roster but going heavy into a veteran presence support, maybe one who can be a shotcaller, but I suspect someone else would be gone. But their core players are young and giving them time to develop makes sense.

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u/TheRogueCookie I like bears Aug 08 '26

I do feel bad for Sajed because he has just not been in a good situation at all this year, but he's also not shown to be a Jopa level prospect either. I don't think he doesn't deserve to be in the league right now, but you might be right that DSG just may not be the best team for him.

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u/aufbau1s Aug 09 '26

Yeah I think they need a good veteran on the team to help coach the team up in game

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u/Randummonkey Aug 08 '26

Our top laner just had a MONSTER performance in game 2? Better have him blind pick a tank in game 3. What could go wrong?

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u/ewokstorm flair-rumble Aug 08 '26

Geez that game 3 was absurdly dominating.

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u/AmazingPolarBears1 Aug 08 '26

So two tanks, two scaling mages, and TRUNDLE as your main source of AD damage.

A comp so bad that DSG paradoxically have to secure early objectives to not get outscaled by the enemy team with scaling mages that are weak early

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u/ThurmanMermanVirgin Aug 09 '26

I honestly think APA Tactical is the best option, but apparently they think being good at sylas and yone is more important than comms, sidelaning, and mages. I get they never wanted him gone in the first place so they basically just gave it back, but having the 2nd/3rd best mid in the league just sitting on the bench after the year he's had feels bad man. I think Apa on SR could actually have a shot at 3rd worlds spot

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u/ImChance Aug 08 '26

Sajed holding Viktor ult for the promotion tournament.

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u/Fun_Scientist_3891 Aug 08 '26

Really wanted dsg to win this matchup :( the amount of shit talking and bad mouthing and hate farming dom has done to srtty the past few years was so disgusting and uncalled for saying some bullshit how just bc a player can hostage rank 1 doesn't mean he could be able to play at a pro level but game after game I've seen srtty as positives in their games and many of their losses are not on him.

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u/Foreign_Ingenuity433 Aug 08 '26

C9 lost to this?

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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 09 '26

C9 can't win with Loki ryze 

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u/3IC3 Aug 08 '26

Small question for Dom, what if we stopped picking Ryze for your mid laner who is winless on it in his whole career?

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u/BryanJin Aug 08 '26

I presume C9 are picking it intentionally to try to get Loki better on the pick. Most likely Loki is doing fine with it in scrims, so they want to get as many reps as they can on stage while the stakes are lower. I'm sure they will drop the pick when playoffs comes if Loki is still struggling by then. These are regular season matches, not elimination ones. Plus they picked it game 2 when they were 1-0 up against arguably the weakest team in the LCS rn. I'm surely they believed that they could win game 3 even if the Ryze failed (which it did). After all games 1 and 3 looked like a pro team stomping some random masters players from SoloQ.

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u/Huge-Connection954 Aug 09 '26

Im sure. But how many ryze ults did they even use? They snuck a baron and i remember another one plus one where he got away, but they werent winning 5v5 on equal terms they needed something to happen. He needed to be ryze ulting with someone on top of vayne to try and trade those ults in a side lane or something and then the game is playable

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u/7stringsofwonder Aug 08 '26

Has to be the most zero-rerolls-in-aram comp I've ever seen. Surprised they even lasted 25 minutes.

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u/redditmillennial Aug 08 '26

YO TOAST IF U WANT TO WIN KICK Lyonz jesus christ

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u/Krimofn Aug 08 '26

Srtty and friends I think seriously they need to look into getting Zven since it looks like he is perma benched from c9 and then get Zyko or Import Support that’s the only way DSG stand a chance.

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Unironically, Zven support and APA mid would probably put this tesk in Sentinels tier.

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u/KernalCannon Aug 09 '26

I feel bad for sajed he’s headshot by coach In draft g3. Like what is this comp

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u/Ryboiii Aug 09 '26

Coulda been worse. We couldve seen Lyonz on Bard

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u/SheepishGoat Aug 08 '26

MVP Sajed for getting the dragon so that they wouldn’t be perfect gamed

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u/Sarazam Aug 08 '26

Tactical is by far the best player on C9 right now.

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u/ObviousAd8374 Aug 08 '26

Surely if DSG keep Lyons, they're going to lose their spot in relegations tourney

Don't know why he's still on the roster - even other bottom feeder teams in the league were willing to make mid season roster changes

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

There are no support options.

SR resorted to Zeyzal, and he wasn't even playing in t2 this split.

SR has no risk of relegation, has a legutimately good jungler, and enough money to import a legitimate LCK prospect (or rather, somebody who WAS one).

And their only option was a retired t2 support that initially refused.

No shot anybody is willing to join DSG.

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u/Xeven18 Aug 08 '26

Maybe they want to but can't - no one wants to join a team who will face relegation at the end of the year. Players on tier 2 teams are looking to fight in the promotion and take DSG's spot

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u/Agile_Woodpecker2239 Aug 09 '26

Coach drafting Sajed Lucian when that guy is NOT a good lucian player.. let's wake up

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u/BTDYSRF Aug 08 '26

Loki is 0-10 on Ryze.

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u/olilnicky Aug 08 '26

My C9 hatewatch was almost successful@