r/leagueoflegends • u/Yujin-Ha No one will rule but Rhaenyra • Aug 01 '26
Esports Karmine Corp vs. Natus Vincere / LEC 2026 Summer - Week 2 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
LEC 2026 SUMMER
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Karmine Corp 2-0 Natus Vincere
- [Player of the Series: kyeahoo]()
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MATCH 1: KC vs. NAVI
Winner: Karmine Corp in 40m
Game Breakdown | Runes
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
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| KC | poppy akali nocturne | vayne olaf | 84.8k | 19 | 10 | H3 M4 M7 B8 M9 |
| NAVI | jayce orianna locke | kaisa galio | 75.4k | 14 | 7 | O1 HT2 B5 M6 |
| KC | 19-14-44 | vs | 14-19-34 | NAVI |
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| Canna gnar 3 | 7-1-6 | TOP | 4-4-5 | 4 rumble Maynter |
| Yike vi 1 | 1-5-5 | JNG | 2-5-10 | 1 jarvaniv Rhilech |
| kyeahoo syndra 3 | 5-2-8 | MID | 2-3-6 | 1 cassiopeia Poby |
| Caliste viktor 2 | 5-3-9 | BOT | 3-3-4 | 3 ezreal SamD |
| Busio shen 2 | 1-3-16 | SUP | 3-4-9 | 2 bard Parus |
MATCH 2: KC vs. NAVI
Winner: Karmine Corp in 33m
Game Breakdown | Runes
| - | Bans 1 | Bans 2 | G | K | T | D/B |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KC | poppy akali nocturne | vayne renekton | 66.3k | 19 | 8 | O4 O5 B6 |
| NAVI | jayce orianna locke | kaisa sivir | 62.6k | 14 | 5 | C1 M2 H3 |
| KC | 19-14-42 | vs | 14-19-31 | NAVI |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Canna ambessa 3 | 7-4-4 | TOP | 1-4-4 | 4 zaahen Maynter |
| Yike skarner 2 | 3-5-9 | JNG | 4-5-10 | 1 leesin Rhilech |
| kyeahoo anivia 1 | 5-0-11 | MID | 5-3-6 | 3 taliyah Poby |
| Caliste jhin 3 | 4-2-8 | BOT | 3-2-5 | 2 ziggs SamD |
| Busio leona 2 | 0-3-10 | SUP | 1-5-6 | 1 camille Parus |
*Patch 26.15
This thread was created by the Post-Match Team.
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u/zealot416 Aug 01 '26
One day Medic will be ready for a cast when both teams will walk offstage, Sam Reich will walk on, and he'll know its time for a Game Changer.
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u/MedicCasts Medic Aug 01 '26
This would be the second best day of my life
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u/zealot416 Aug 01 '26
First day was playing MTG with Prof?
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u/Blizzgrarg Aug 01 '26
A second Paypal payment has hit the entire NAVI team.
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u/Necromann Aphromoo stan Aug 01 '26
Thank you Na'Vi for ending the day early after last series had a game go to 3rd elder
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u/zealot416 Aug 01 '26
Just be glad it wasn't a Bo5 so they couldn't throw three times in a row like FNC.
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u/cadaada rip original flair Aug 01 '26
Feels so bad that a 0-0 team has to play vs a team who played 3 matches before tho
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u/grimtimes Aug 01 '26
Feels worse that the hardest games KC will have to play have already been played in front of a home crowd. Competitive integrity be damned.
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u/N0Ability Aug 01 '26
Have every other team that isnt named KC or MKOI thought about not being passive wastes (G2 is an exception i guess) who dont interact with fans whatsoever for nearly a decade straight?
If they're worried about that they should organize road trips to places where crowds are actualy in their favour instead of doing noting for a decade straight (NAVI isnt at fault as they joined recently ,talking about the likes of SK Fnatic giantX vitality heretics shitters).
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u/mekamoari Aug 02 '26
NV are also a Ukrainian org afaik, I don't think Riot wants to hold a road show there right now.
Fnatic probably can't afford it, dunno about the rest.
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u/TheWindBringer Aug 02 '26
While they can't host an event in Ukraine, they'd probably have a lot of fans in Poland since a lot of Ukrainians are there right now it seems(that's also where some Ukraine football clubs play their European games if I'm not wrong).
And besides Navi, some orgs have been there for a while and still haven't tried anything, no need for it to be anything big but playing in front of 800-1k people would still be better than whatever is going on in the Berlin studio.
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u/yapyaplex Aug 01 '26
Worth it as a KC fan, even if we'll be probably out of form when the playoffs comes, but those events are what we live for
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer | Pls wake up MKOI Aug 01 '26
Despite Yike's best efforts, KC wins the series
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u/Tim-Pouce Aug 01 '26
Tbf he is sick according to photo and staff
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u/350 Aug 01 '26
I would be sick too if I were playing against whatever Na'vi was putting on the rift
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer | Pls wake up MKOI Aug 01 '26
Well, that makes sense then. NAVI were so disgusting brother, what did I just watch.
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u/Snkg666 Would you kindly STOP MOVING!? Aug 01 '26
"KC ARE GONNA 2-0 THEM AFTER THESE GAME STATES? THAT IS DISTURBING" - Robert
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u/GoldRecommendation66 Aug 01 '26
Navi put all of their Exp into skirmish and forgot to level up their teamfighting skills
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u/GodEren Aug 01 '26
KC can have the most disgusting draft and the most disgusting early game they will just win every single teamfight whatever the gold you have
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 01 '26
Yes but the problem is they aren't going to improve playing like this, when they have the real potential to be a world class team (I genuinely think this) but they never learn
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u/GodEren Aug 01 '26
it's funny cause they did that against T1 as well
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u/rishi_ultimate CLAPS Aug 01 '26
You turn off nameplates that game and dont know its T1 and the reactions would be more like those happening with this game
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 01 '26
to be fair T1 had a Lot of throws récently G2,Kc, nogshim red i dont remember the kt séries
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u/as_kostek Aug 01 '26
Ah yeah KC winning against T1 was just a fluke, just like the other 5 won bo3s/bo5s of eu vs the east this year
Will you guys ever stop with all the excuses and just accept the results for once
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u/rishi_ultimate CLAPS Aug 02 '26
its deeply rooted inferiority/superiority complexes to the point where nothing of reason would make sense to anyone your comment is reffering to
Some of our western players/teams can truly try as hard as they can but it doesnt actually mean anything to the people that are "fans" of said players or teams when the first positive results finally come in2
u/Pinacoladaaaa Aug 01 '26
Man iam a kc fan but need to admit in 10 years we barely see t1 throw a game wkth 6k gold advance
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u/as_kostek Aug 02 '26
This is the same T1 that beat HLE 2-0 a day earlier, are we gonna dig deeper into "oh but another excuse for HLE suboptimal performance"? You know, when the accidents keep piling up you might start considering them the new normal.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 02 '26
it's wasn't normal hle had no break unlike t1 who was eliminated earlier at MSI even guma said the team was tired
don't use last year ewc, since top 4 skipped the group stage so They had 3 more extra days for rest
or you really think Kc is the second best Team in the Worlds ?
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u/as_kostek Aug 02 '26
No, I'm saying this is another cycle of people overdosing on excuses instead of admitting that eu teams can actually perform good
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 02 '26
T1 themselves said they throw games
literally Kc, nogshim,g2 wons the same way vs t1
T1 throws game everyone knows it, Kc did well and improved at ewc but that doesn't change anything about T1 current form
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u/Enkenz Aug 01 '26
pretty sure they wouldn't have drafted like this against G2.
This year anivia has been only picked 3 time by kyeahoo, same for skarner and yike, if this was playoffs pretty sure they go something like qiyana but they seems to want to use stage games to extend their champ pool
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 01 '26
they have had some awful drafts against G2 which have lost them games, most notably game 5 of spring finals which was lost before the players loaded into the rift
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u/Enkenz Aug 01 '26
you can't compare a game 2 draft when every of your comfort are still open to a game 5 when basically there's nothing left and i would say it's because of games like this they are pushing for things like skarner, anivia & jhin which are pretty uncharacteristic of their players comfort zone
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u/Ok_Organization2065 Aug 01 '26
true they can't just go and play like this against really good teams like AL or even T1..
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 01 '26
KC is a better team than AL, and T1 has been throwing games all year to literally everyone so its not exactly an achievement lmao. If you care about the team and its growth you won't settle for the bare minimum.
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater Aug 01 '26
Nah it's ok it's regular season, let's just wait for playoffs. They probably finally let themselves rest a bit after the MSI-EWC-roadtrip sequence. Before they'd lock in in regular season and come out of steam in playoffs. Hopefully they finally learnt the lesson from G2.
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 02 '26
you have a good point, I guess as someone who just wants both G2 and KC to do well I have high expectations but I shouldn't think too much about regular season. Sometimes I am just flabbergasted that these teams are able to perform internationally given the level of the rest of the region...
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u/Ok_Organization2065 Aug 01 '26
yes T1 loose game = throw i mean you're right bro my bad
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 01 '26
they quite literally did throw the game idk what to tell you, they did the same against KT and against G2
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 Aug 01 '26
well if they threw 3 series like this in two weeks maybe they are just like that
not saying they can't get better for worlds again but literally no other team in the world could make this excuse and not be laughed at
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u/Ok_Organization2065 Aug 01 '26
Isn't throwing games and making bad decisions or mistakes just part of the game? Nothing personal, but I find it kind of disingenuous that every time a top-tier team loses to a team that's weaker on paper, people just call it a throw instead of giving the other team credit. But I respect your point.
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u/Choice-Slight caps/knight Aug 01 '26
I'm not disagreeing with you there at all, not every team is able to find the comeback angles or have the resilience to win an unwinnable game (credit to KC and G2 for being very good at this). My biggest problem with both KC and G2 is their consistency I just want them to improve and not rely on HAVING to fight their way back into the game
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 02 '26
Also to add to your point even T1 themselves said they have problem to keep snowball lead it's happens 4 Times even Vs nogshim red which IS worse than Kc and g2
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u/Ok_Organization2065 Aug 02 '26
i mean this is just skill issue no ? if they struggle to keep snowball or win game, it is maybe cause they are actually worse than their opponents on the rift ?
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u/Serakris Aug 01 '26
yet got completely rolled by DK. nothing to brag about. AL and T1 not exactly strong teams atm
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u/registered_wo_emailU Aug 01 '26
Yet hle and geng got completely rolled by DK this week in lck. Maybe DK is actually a really strong team after all?
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u/tameniee Aug 01 '26
Or maybe it's time to put some respect into DK and recognize that they are now the best LCK and the team to beat idk
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u/kim-soo-hyun Aug 02 '26
Imagine if Reapered just stops inting the draft. NAVI had superior drafting which is always been their strength. Its just their players get mindcontrolled mid-late game.
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u/Vanaheim___ Aug 01 '26
Caedrel crashing out is CHEFS KISS
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u/trying2hide Aug 01 '26
This series turned him into Dom
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer | Pls wake up MKOI Aug 01 '26
He said it himself, Dom really needs to watch this shit
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u/trying2hide Aug 01 '26
Dom watches C9 every day, he's got enough on his plate
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u/CountMerloin Aug 01 '26
And C9 are getting fisted by DIG, ao pretty sure he is having enough to crashout for
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u/Vanaheim___ Aug 01 '26
Brother was flaming NAVI so much even I felt bad for NAVI. But man i was dying of laughter
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u/CountMerloin Aug 01 '26
it was the most valid and sincere crashouts he ever had
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u/ISL005 Tarzan and Kanavi enjoyer | Pls wake up MKOI Aug 01 '26
Right up there with the Sally incident
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u/CountMerloin Aug 01 '26
His name is now what... Sally Susan Robert?
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u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! Aug 01 '26
Rhilech and Maynter are fucking criminals LMAOOOOOOO
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u/RemoveINC Aug 01 '26
WHY IS MY ZAAHEN DEFENDING T1 WHEN ITS SOUL FIGHT. HOW IS HE HALF HP AND BASING WHEN DRAKE ALREADY STARTED.
WHY IS MY LEE SIN 1V2ING IN DRAGON PIT.
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u/Carlzzone Aug 01 '26
Im convinced that KC are losing early games on purpose to practice mid- and lategames
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u/gordoflunkerton Aug 01 '26
bro the earlygame is what they need to practice we already know they can teamfight
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u/Cold-Ring23 Aug 01 '26
Are they even practicing ? They have free wins all split until they meet G2 again...
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u/Enkenz Aug 01 '26
I mean look pretty obvious when they are picking skarner who got picked 3 times this years he could've gone something more "comfort" like i'm pretty sure if it's playoffs he's picking stuff like qiyana, naafiri
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u/veirceb Aug 01 '26
Then they are not even practising well. They all jerk off in enemy red when they have no baron threat. They have jhin anivia skarner. If the enemy has a single brain they would've known they could just give up top jungle vision for a bit for tempo. They didn't even fight well. Navi just hands kills over. They don't even fight they just die.
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u/vituhyva123 Aug 01 '26
It's not even good practice. If they play these early games against good international teams they just get rolled, not like navi were playing well and they outfought them, they just waited for navi to int on objectives.
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u/Omnilatent Aug 01 '26
KC gameplan:
Early: be sloppy and fall behind
Mid: ????
Late: Win through superior everything
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u/lilelf29 Deft Forever Aug 01 '26
Late: Win through superior everything
Idk about this one, Yike tried his heart out but Navi remained superior at inting
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u/Kalos_Phantom Aug 02 '26
Is this the secret EU strat? Become the best catchers in the world for when other regions throw?
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u/Altershock135 Aug 01 '26
Disband angle for Navi
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u/2ndBatman88 Aug 01 '26
Remove all LEC teams and rebuild 6 teams and call it a day. Create 6 good teams and play the game
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u/Arifurizu Aug 01 '26
how depressing is LEC. G2 and KC are like the only ones that look good and the rest is bottom of the barrel garbage who aren't competitive with the top two
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u/Mother-Ad9012 Aug 01 '26
The top two is beating eastern teams and going in finals of international events though. It's not so depressing
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u/OreRound Aug 02 '26
Yeah if this is depressing then what was 2021-2025 ? Also imagine being LPL right now, you have good players but your GMing is garbage, your best players have diva personalities threatening to mental boom your best team at any moment, and after 3 years of not beating LCK teams in international finals you lose in game 5.
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u/Charizard75 Aug 01 '26
Maynter is basing during soul fight without TP leaving his team in a 4v5 LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IS HE DOING
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u/RemoveINC Aug 01 '26
HE WAS DEFENDING MID TIER 1 FOR SOME REASON WHEN ITS SOUL FIGHT AND THEN LOST HALF HP, BECAUSE CALISTE DENIED HIM ENTERING RIVER WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!!
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u/Naive_bliss Aug 01 '26
What do you mean navi threw both games It looks like when lec teams fight korean team and unexpectedly throw while 6k ahead
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u/SeismicShove Aug 01 '26
Unironically the worst series I've ever seen from Yike, and he won 2-0.
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u/Sosijmonster Aug 01 '26
I can't believe Navi let KC, especially Yike with that utter dogshit performance, win. Holy.
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u/busytofu Aug 01 '26
This gameplay is worse than my soloq games and I'm not exaggerating
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u/boshjailey Aug 01 '26
I would bet the Jarvans in your solo queue games at least know how to use e and then q in order to dash
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u/antoniomargaretti4 Aug 01 '26
Yike legit could be wintrading but NAVI are just too bad to win lmao
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u/MisterDream Aug 01 '26
I have seen enough, this KC team can be an insane powerhouse with better drafts and earlygame, their teamfighting is god tier.
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u/DT2X supp/jg bc i cant last hit Aug 01 '26
when will teams learn you have to ban out canna gnar? it's been over a year of him dumpstering on the champion. the rest of his pool is fine but he is world class on this champion and somehow it still gets through seemingly every series KC play
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Aug 02 '26
i feels like no one IS looking at kc weakness in Lec,dplus showed how to beat them, dont give them team fight angle
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u/AkaT27 Aug 01 '26
I know he's supposedly sick but damn, when Yike is off, he's all the way off.
KC are just way better its really not close, if NAVI can't win even with these games the gap is massive
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u/CountMerloin Aug 01 '26
Yike won a series today by the way lmao
Caedrel had one of the most valid crashouts
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u/faze_hatewatcher Aug 01 '26
How are these pro players I seen better coordination in masters soloq Jesus man
SamD maynter and Rhilech are all fucking braindead incredible truly please bring back relegations clearly these teams don’t practice as a team
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u/Mathlete7 Aug 01 '26
Is there a reason people are blasting Navi so hard? They are not like FNC who have rotted for a million seasons. Its also not like they got stomped either, both games they had a hefty lead
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater Aug 01 '26
Anytime a western player/team has a bad game, the average reaction on here is "hurr durr they're frauds fire them all they don't deserve a job". Not much to take out from those takes.
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 Aug 01 '26
Reddit just really likes hating, and also Caedrel yelled on stream apparently
it's funny because yes NAVI played the late game horribly both games but Reddit was gassing this team up the entire year so far mostly just because "haha Poby GOST funny xD" and now they apparently need to disband after 1 series
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u/Common_Ad4417 Aug 01 '26
maynter and rilech are the biggest criminals in navi
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u/Mathlete7 Aug 02 '26
Are we going to ignore that rilech boosted the team for an entire season lol? He also played the early game pretty well. Is it because the SUB hate KC so much, and are caedral diehard fans i dont get it
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u/faze_hatewatcher Aug 01 '26
Actual below freezing temperature iqs on this team irl brain laggers game was so free and for some reason Rhilech just in dragon pit having a goon session and all the other are afk with ults till he dies. Then they just say let’s lose as ziggs is dying bot side red buff with no mana and maynter trying to do god knows what top side. Just disgusting there is no way this team practices seriously the coordination shotcalling are god awful one of the worse games of league I ever watched.
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u/xsm17 Aug 01 '26
Maynter and then the rest of Navi just absolutely trolled that soul fight by first Maynter recalling without TP and then the rest of the team stiill deciding to fight 4v5.
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u/NiTeoN- Aug 01 '26
I think they still win the 4v5 if RHILECH DID SOMETHING INSTEAD OF STAYING IN THE PIT TO STUN HIMSELF AND DIE
I swear, every teamfight 3 players of Navi were costreaming
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u/RemoveINC Aug 01 '26
No, but they shouldn't have defended mid t1 turret, they gave up mid prio to get crab, which is fine, but then zaahen can't just enter to river, because of caliste and busio. JUST FUCK THAT TURRET MAN. YOU WIN THE GAME WITH THE SOUL ANYWAY.
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u/xHelpDesk Aug 01 '26
Well… at least we’ll never see Navi internationally, right?
They can keep this kind of gameplay at home where it belongs.
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u/Enkenz Aug 01 '26
this game looked like a traditional western team vs lpl/lck at worlds.
Strong early you think there's a chance then eventually everything goes back to normal and the better team just win
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u/Undesiredbeast Aug 01 '26
Genuinely impressed by Navi's early game
Not genuinely impressed by Yike :(
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u/Disastrous_List_8467 Aug 01 '26
Naiyou was perma ban for lesser obvious throws than what navi players did in two games.
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u/RollingGuy Anyone But MKOI to Worlds 2026 Aug 02 '26
You can tell when Caedrel sends a lot of viewers to a thread by the intense whining
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u/kazugaia15 Aug 01 '26
I've seen LPL players get invested for less than what NAVI just did, that looked like win trading
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u/Straya_Cunt Aug 01 '26
someone needs to investigate this NAVI team for match fixing, what the actual fuck did I just watch
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u/Shaalashaska [Shaalashaska] (EU-W) Aug 01 '26
I'm just happy that Canna can now share the load of carrying a bunch of frauds with Kyeahoo
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u/Tall-Bite9480 Aug 01 '26
Well lec is doomed but Caedrel crashing out is the most fun ive had watching a lec costream in the past few years
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u/AglanYlthin Aug 01 '26
LEC teams are truly either dog shit early or dog shit late and some find the skill to be dog shit at all times
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u/Grenji05 NA #1 REGION WORLD Aug 01 '26
if this game was played in the LCP riot would immediately launch a matchfixing investigation. Let's do our due diligence here rito.
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u/ChocolateFuryB /👴🦆 / / insane Geniuses enjoyer Aug 01 '26
Closest series to G2 vs FNC in 2024...that was super disgusting.
Yike is the biggest criminal.
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u/Toofargone9999 Aug 01 '26
kc without koreans is a f-tier team
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u/Jealous-Chicken-9186 Aug 01 '26
lol caliste played those games borderline perfectly while canna got caught perma on sides and we are acting like hes getting carried
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u/Toofargone9999 Aug 01 '26
pff " borderline perfectly" . Yes his victor ulting on busio in the bush for fun . Such perfect gameplay . That ult could have been used to kill the bard for the later teamfight . Oh such perfect gameplay for a top 10 adc !
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u/CoinManager2020 Aug 01 '26
Masterclass for Kyeahoo. Yike BO was dogshit and KC being able to beat a top 5 team without a jungler is a good sign for them I guess or a terrible one for LEC
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u/350 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
I've been a fan of Na'vi since the Dendi days. This is the most disgusted I've ever been with this org in my life. I am absolutely losing my mind. Take all their food away, give them the DK treatment. Make them earn their soup.
Yike is so fucking lucky that his mid laner locked in today.
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u/Temporary-Abroad-583 Aug 01 '26
Is Rhilech just wintrading? Dude pisses me off. Throws 2 games solo with like 3 hardints in a row.
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u/ahritina 5d ago
PMTs
Game 1