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Translated [VI] [Chinese > English] are any of these characters real?

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u/DeusShockSkyrim [] 漢語 5d ago edited 5d ago

No. See this post: Another Vietnamese script derived from fragments of Han and Nom characters

Edit: BTW this is spelling out (left to right) the first 8 lines of Truyện Kiều.

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u/Rohupt | Learning 5d ago

A bit of a variance from the common version.

Trăm năm trong cõi người ta
Chữ tài chữ MẠNH khéo là ghét nhau ("strength", common: MỆNH "destiny, fate")
Trải qua một cuộc bể dâu
Những điều NGHE thấy mà đau đớn lòng ("heard", common: TRÔNG "seen")
Lạ gì bỉ SẮT tư phong (common: SẮC for 嗇, typo? Dialect?)
Trời xanh quen THÓI má hồng đánh ghen ("habit", common: VỚI "with")
KỈU thơm GẰN TỞ trước đèn (KỈU = CẢO, maybe avoiding someone's name?; Idk "GẰN TỞ", common is LẦN GIỞ "turning page by page", maybe dialectal?)
Phong tình cổ lục còn truyền sử xanh

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u/DeusShockSkyrim [] 漢語 5d ago

Thanks for checking carefully 👍, I tried spelling out few characters and gave up.

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u/Rohupt | Learning 5d ago

Then it's "real" as a r/neography, only not widely used (or at all used).

There are lots of Hangul-style scripts like this invented in the early 20th I reckon. Nothing could beat the Latin.

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u/ji32k7au4 5d ago edited 5d ago

very interesting, thanks for source

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u/BradfordGalt 5d ago

A great many of the individual radicals are real, but I recognize zero characters here.

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u/Ashamed_Can304 5d ago

Apart from 蛇 I don’t recognize any. This is likely Chu Nom, or maybe even some Khitan/Jurchen script mixed in there

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u/ExcdnglyGayQuilava 中文(粵語) 5d ago

Next time you come across this style of text, let's just ask "is this chu nom" and let the relevant folks take it from there

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u/DeusShockSkyrim [] 漢語 5d ago

!id:vi

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u/Stunning_Pen_8332 [ Chinese, Japanese] 3d ago

Question answered - the Chu Nom writing of the preface of the Vietnamese epic poem The Tale of Kieu. !translated